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I double-checked several dictionaries and online
discussions about the spelling problems. I had
understood that the accepted spellings are "résumé",
"resumé", and "resume". I wrong with the second one.
But what do dictionaries know? I thought I would
consult the expert, "google":

resume - 9,140,000 hits
résumé - 1,760,000 hits
resumé - 293,000 hits
résume - 194,000 hits
resumè - 3,370 hits
rèsumè - 3,360 hits
rèsume - 702 hits

But in France, they call it a "curriculum vitae"
anyway. Other potential research projects: "façade"
and "naïve" or "naíve".

--- Star Raven <celestraof12worlds@...> wrote:
> > and are routinely removed. Compare "résumé",
> > "résume", and "resume". All 3 are considered
> correct,
>
> I know I got a D in french, but shouldn't the first
> accented e in the
> first word be and accent grave, and the accent in
> the second word be
> over the final e? I could be wrong, but it's a minor
> thing, so... carry
> on
>
> Your Spelling Gremlin
> --Star
>
> PS, in shaw, there wouldn't be a spelling demon...
> :)
>
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I double-checked several dictionaries and online
discussions about the spelling problems. I had
understood that the accepted spellings are "risumi",
"resumi", and "resume". I wrong with the second one.
But what do dictionaries know? I thought I would
consult the expert, "google":

resume - 9,140,000 hits
risumi - 1,760,000 hits
resumi - 293,000 hits
risume - 194,000 hits
resumh - 3,370 hits
rhsumh - 3,360 hits
rhsume - 702 hits

But in France, they call it a "curriculum vitae"
anyway. Other potential research projects: "fagade"
and "naove" or "namve".

--- Star Raven <celestraof12worlds@...> wrote:
> > and are routinely removed. Compare "risumi",
> > "risume", and "resume". All 3 are considered
> correct,
>
> I know I got a D in french, but shouldn't the first
> accented e in the
> first word be and accent grave, and the accent in
> the second word be
> over the final e? I could be wrong, but it's a minor
> thing, so... carry
> on
>
> Your Spelling Gremlin
> --Star
>
> PS, in shaw, there wouldn't be a spelling demon...
> :)
>
> =====
> Hand Jive (do each movement twice): Pat Legs, Clap
> hands, Wave right over left, Wave left over right,
> Right fist over left, Left Fist over right,
> Hitchhiker right, Hitchhiker left.
>
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I told you, I got a D in french. Thanks though, as I myself was not
sure.

:) There are reasons I prefer Shavian :)

--Star

--- Scott Stephens <swstephe@...> wrote:
> I double-checked several dictionaries and online
> discussions about the spelling problems. I had
> understood that the accepted spellings are "résumé",
> "resumé", and "resume". I wrong with the second one.
> But what do dictionaries know? I thought I would
> consult the expert, "google":
>
> resume - 9,140,000 hits
> résumé - 1,760,000 hits
> resumé - 293,000 hits
> résume - 194,000 hits
> resumè - 3,370 hits
> rèsumè - 3,360 hits
> rèsume - 702 hits
>
> But in France, they call it a "curriculum vitae"
> anyway. Other potential research projects: "façade"
> and "naïve" or "naíve".
>
> --- Star Raven <celestraof12worlds@...> wrote:
> > > and are routinely removed. Compare "résumé",
> > > "résume", and "resume". All 3 are considered
> > correct,
> >
> > I know I got a D in french, but shouldn't the first
> > accented e in the
> > first word be and accent grave, and the accent in
> > the second word be
> > over the final e? I could be wrong, but it's a minor
> > thing, so... carry
> > on
> >
> > Your Spelling Gremlin
> > --Star
> >
> > PS, in shaw, there wouldn't be a spelling demon...
> > :)
> >
> > =====
> > Hand Jive (do each movement twice): Pat Legs, Clap
> > hands, Wave right over left, Wave left over right,
> > Right fist over left, Left Fist over right,
> > Hitchhiker right, Hitchhiker left.
> >
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I told you, I got a D in french. Thanks though, as I myself was not
sure.

:) There are reasons I prefer Shavian :)

--Star

--- Scott Stephens <swstephe@...> wrote:
> I double-checked several dictionaries and online
> discussions about the spelling problems. I had
> understood that the accepted spellings are "risumi",
> "resumi", and "resume". I wrong with the second one.
> But what do dictionaries know? I thought I would
> consult the expert, "google":
>
> resume - 9,140,000 hits
> risumi - 1,760,000 hits
> resumi - 293,000 hits
> risume - 194,000 hits
> resumh - 3,370 hits
> rhsumh - 3,360 hits
> rhsume - 702 hits
>
> But in France, they call it a "curriculum vitae"
> anyway. Other potential research projects: "fagade"
> and "naove" or "namve".
>
> --- Star Raven <celestraof12worlds@...> wrote:
> > > and are routinely removed. Compare "risumi",
> > > "risume", and "resume". All 3 are considered
> > correct,
> >
> > I know I got a D in french, but shouldn't the first
> > accented e in the
> > first word be and accent grave, and the accent in
> > the second word be
> > over the final e? I could be wrong, but it's a minor
> > thing, so... carry
> > on
> >
> > Your Spelling Gremlin
> > --Star
> >
> > PS, in shaw, there wouldn't be a spelling demon...
> > :)
> >
> > =====
> > Hand Jive (do each movement twice): Pat Legs, Clap
> > hands, Wave right over left, Wave left over right,
> > Right fist over left, Left Fist over right,
> > Hitchhiker right, Hitchhiker left.
> >
> > __________________________________
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On Sunday, Jul 20, 2003, at 15:26 US/Eastern, Scott Stephens wrote:

> How would a Shavian
> writer write foreign words in French or German?
>
As I have done in my documents, you write the foreign language in the
alphabet in which it is normally written. Therefore, you do not write
German words in Shavian, but in Latin characters.

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On Monday, Jul 21, 2003, at 12:32 US/Eastern, Scott Stephens wrote:

> I saw someone who had applied Shavian to Esperanto and
> it seemed to have worked quite well.

I think this is an inappropriate use for Shavian, as it is meant to be
used for English. You may as well write Esperanto in Cyrillic or
Devanagari.

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On Monday, Jul 21, 2003, at 15:43 US/Eastern, Scott Stephens wrote:

> So, my point is that Shavian has to be standardized
> and globalized and that means that the English
> language itself has to be standardized and globalized,
> or else you should pick your favorite international
> language and "Shavianize" it. Otherwise, it is just a
> writing system you can use personally to record your
> own notes and share among other users in your group.
>
I think the major problem with Shavian is the fact that people
pronounce the same English word differently. This causes the spelling
in Shavian to be different. I would suggest we should standardize on
spelling of Shavian words. However, this does not mean we need to
standardize on the English language. The use of the word rubber in
England and the United States can be different. The use of adjustable
spanner and monkey wrench can still exist in Shavian. People may be
able to easily identify that the speaker speaks British English versus
American English because of word choice, or grammatical construction.
However, I suggest the spelling should be the same in Shavian. This
means colour and color would not exist. The major problem with this
suggestion is the fact that the Brits want to spell a word one way, the
Americans another, the South Africans another, etc.

As you can tell I am slightly disenchanted because I have not updated
my documents (a) to the new Unicode code points for Shavian, and (2)
with more content.

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On Friday, Jul 18, 2003, at 11:14 US/Eastern, Hugh Birkenhead wrote:

>> Hugh's got a GREAT point! Way to go, Hugh...
>>
>> --Star
>
> Thankyou for your confidence! Unfortunately I'm a crappy coder so
> there's no
> chance of me making anything like this... But I'll certainly 'crack
> open'
> the VB and see if I can remember anything from school...
>
> Anybody want to have a go despite me?
>
> Prizes to be won!!! :-P
>
>
I think this is an awesome idea. I would normally have thought to
tackle this in Java. However, I think Java may not be able to handle
the Unicode code points for Shavian. If this is the case, I would have
to write the game for Mac OS X only. I cannot write it targetting a
Windows machine only. By the way, I write software for a living.

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On Friday, Jul 18, 2003, at 13:28 US/Eastern, shavian@...
wrote:

> You can access this file at the URL
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shavian/files/texts/
> Declaration_Of_Independence.htm
>
>
Is there another place where I can see this document? I cannot
remember my yahoo information and therefore cannot get into the group
to see this on yahoo. I would like to compare this to the one I wrote
many years ago. For those interested I also did the United States
Constitution and the United States Bill of Rights.

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On Sunday, Jul 20, 2003, at 19:28 US/Eastern, Hugh Birkenhead wrote:

> Looks like it's going to be difficult.
>
>
>
If you guys want to get rid of using YahooGroups I can set up a
mailing list on a domain I host (like shawalphabet.org). You would
just have to subscribe to the mailing list (currently using the mailman
software -- so using a web browser would be fine) and things would be
like normal. However, I do not have any vault capabilities that I
currently permit. Perhaps this can be investigated.

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