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Hi Star

I enjoyed reading your Shavian handwriting. I like the way
how you write the 'm' and 'n' characters with the extra slant
This makes it easy to distinguish between the two characters.
In fact all your characters are very neat and legible. Very nice
Shavian handwriting.

Note: ( Most people probably already know this but the photo
album, at least for me, defaults too the medium view. The text
is much easier to read when switched to the larger view.)

I have been trying to practice my Shavian handwriting by
using it to take notes in. Like with anything, with more
practice the better the handwriting looks. Does anyone else
here practice handwriting Shavian with notetaking?

Regards,
Brian

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tQns nFm /brunswik wiT H stEt sQT v us /kentukI...wel its
funI if V liv hC. :)

F enJqd rIdiN H pOam /pYl. HEnks f pOstiN it!

regRds,
/brFAn /AlJxI
http://www.brightstar.curvedspaces.com/

Thanks, Brian. Yes, the worst problem I have is when one of the short
letters wants to look like a tall or long, for instance M looking like
Z, which is why I add the extreme. What did you think of the /HW/
character?

--Star

--- Brian Algeri <bkalgeri@...> wrote:

> Hi Star
>
> I enjoyed reading your Shavian handwriting. I like the way
> how you write the 'm' and 'n' characters with the extra slant
> This makes it easy to distinguish between the two characters.
> In fact all your characters are very neat and legible. Very nice
> Shavian handwriting.
>
> Note: ( Most people probably already know this but the photo
> album, at least for me, defaults too the medium view. The text
> is much easier to read when switched to the larger view.)
>
> I have been trying to practice my Shavian handwriting by
> using it to take notes in. Like with anything, with more
> practice the better the handwriting looks. Does anyone else
> here practice handwriting Shavian with notetaking?
>
> Regards,
> Brian
>


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Hi Star,

>> What did you think of the /HW/ character?

By /HW/ do you mean the wh like in whale (the shavian woe)?
If thats the character. I like how you write that. In fact I like
how you write all of your characters.

>> , the worst problem I have is when one of the short
>> letters wants to look like a tall or long,

I have the same problem. To correct this I started to emulate
your handwriting style; making my own handwriting easier to
read with better distinguishable characters.

>> I used a broad nibbed pen which helps.

Is that like a fountain pen?


Regards,
Brian

--- Brian Algeri <bkalgeri@...> wrote:

> Hi Star,
>
> >> What did you think of the /HW/ character?
>
> By /HW/ do you mean the wh like in whale (the shavian woe)?
> If thats the character. I like how you write that. In fact I like
> how you write all of your characters.
>

Yes, K. Read's QS calls it Whitewheat

> >> , the worst problem I have is when one of the short
> >> letters wants to look like a tall or long,
>
> I have the same problem. To correct this I started to emulate
> your handwriting style; making my own handwriting easier to
> read with better distinguishable characters.
>

Tee hee, Thanks! What you don't see is that I have both studied
handwriting for more than ten years and that before I started using
college ruled paper, I started with primary ruled paper. Yes, the stuff
they give elementary students.

> >> I used a broad nibbed pen which helps.
>
> Is that like a fountain pen?
>

Yes, I am currently using a Manuscript brand italic pen which is
available from Hobby Lobby, and uses ink cartridges. it forces you to
give your letters a little width, and allows for more ease of
manipulation to make each letter.

--Star

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Now we just need to make a font based on your handwriting and we'll be
golden. :P

Heh heh, I'm sure it will become sloppier as I realize what mistakes I
can make and what lines I can fudge. I have already noticed the front
side of /tot/ dropping lower, the /ice/ character looking like /roar/
or /age/ looking like /lol/. and the like.

We'll give it a little while. I may yet find a short fiction book or
story in the public domain that I like that I can copy. You know, there
are days that I wish I had a tablet pc, and could just write on the
screen.

--Star

--- circtf <circtf@...> wrote:

> Now we just need to make a font based on your handwriting and we'll
> be
> golden. :P
>
>
>
>
>


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Hi Star,

Wow, what a wonderful addition to the photo gallery. I too am impressed by
your handwriting. Thanks for sharing this with us! Feel free to write as
much more as you can! :D

I do like your 'hw' letter. It's very similar to the Quikscript equivalent,
and being an elegant combination of 'haha' and 'woe' makes perfect logical
sense. It's just a shame the Unicode points have been "set in stone" now.

Hugh B


> -----Original Message-----
> From: shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com [mailto:shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Star Raven
> Sent: 18 April 2006 13:06
> To: shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [shawalphabet] Re: New Photo Album
>
> Thanks, Paul. I've been mostly staying out of the discussions because
> the typed doesn't quite work with my brain, or my e-mail. I'm
> eventually hoping to do an entire work, but for now, I may simply fill
> up my composition book. In all honesty, I think I've decided that it
> really does take a broad nibbed pen to make it look good, though I have
> done shaw in ball-point before.
>
> That being said, by the end of Marc Antony's speech, I was actually
> writing at about half to three-quarters my roman speed, which is a vast
> improvement. I also found uses for On, Ah, and Awe, even with my
> american accent. Dropping letters for americans? I don't think that
> will be neccessary or wise. If anything, I will keep my version of the
> (hw) which as I have described before is a small ha-ha attached below
> the baseline to a woe.
>
> --Star
>
> --- paul vandenbrink <pvandenbrink11@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi Star
> > Nice to see you again.
> > Thanks for the pictures.
> > There is something very powerful about seeing written
> > Shaw. That's what it wuz intended for.
> > Regards, Paul V.
> > ___________________attached___________________
> > --- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, Star Raven
> > <celestraof12worlds@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks. I used a broad nibbed pen which helps. Heck, my roman
> > > handwriting is neater with the nice pen :) Of course, there were
> > the
> > > large number of mistakes, and a few spelling changes, for instance
> > >
> > > SEE-ZER vs. SEE-zur
> >
> >
> >
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Thanks, Hugh.

You know, I'm learning a lot as I write about why things are like they
are. I believe that Read may have actually known what he was talking
about when he did the things that we complain about, such as the /haha/
/hung/ reversal, which flows naturaly with my writing, and as for the
on, awe, ah distinction, as I write, they seem to fall into place.
While writing Richard III's Act I scene 1 speech (Now is the winter of
our discontent...), I did have the opportunity to write the word
Murderer, which seemed logical to have the schwer twice at the end.
This and other interesting lessons can be learned with a little time
and a broad nibbed pen.

Once my scanner is operational again, it will make this whole transfer
thing much easier, though if I had my druthers, I would make paper
somewhat different. Rather than have a full line to be skipped, which
as you can see I did not, but I would have put a half line between each
line so that the decenders of one line did not over lap the ascenders
of the line below. For my writing, this is not so much a problem since
the ascenders don't reach to the top of the line, and the decenders are
relatively short.

--Star, who naturally writes quite small and crampt

--- Hugh Birkenhead <mixsynth@...> wrote:

> Hi Star,
>
> Wow, what a wonderful addition to the photo gallery. I too am
> impressed by
> your handwriting. Thanks for sharing this with us! Feel free to write
> as
> much more as you can! :D
>
> I do like your 'hw' letter. It's very similar to the Quikscript
> equivalent,
> and being an elegant combination of 'haha' and 'woe' makes perfect
> logical
> sense. It's just a shame the Unicode points have been "set in stone"
> now.
>
> Hugh B
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of Star Raven
> > Sent: 18 April 2006 13:06
> > To: shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [shawalphabet] Re: New Photo Album
> >
> > Thanks, Paul. I've been mostly staying out of the discussions
> because
> > the typed doesn't quite work with my brain, or my e-mail. I'm
> > eventually hoping to do an entire work, but for now, I may simply
> fill
> > up my composition book. In all honesty, I think I've decided that
> it
> > really does take a broad nibbed pen to make it look good, though I
> have
> > done shaw in ball-point before.
> >
> > That being said, by the end of Marc Antony's speech, I was actually
> > writing at about half to three-quarters my roman speed, which is a
> vast
> > improvement. I also found uses for On, Ah, and Awe, even with my
> > american accent. Dropping letters for americans? I don't think that
> > will be neccessary or wise. If anything, I will keep my version of
> the
> > (hw) which as I have described before is a small ha-ha attached
> below
> > the baseline to a woe.
> >
> > --Star
> >
> > --- paul vandenbrink <pvandenbrink11@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Star
> > > Nice to see you again.
> > > Thanks for the pictures.
> > > There is something very powerful about seeing written
> > > Shaw. That's what it wuz intended for.
> > > Regards, Paul V.
> > > ___________________attached___________________
> > > --- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, Star Raven
> > > <celestraof12worlds@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks. I used a broad nibbed pen which helps. Heck, my roman
> > > > handwriting is neater with the nice pen :) Of course, there
> were
> > > the
> > > > large number of mistakes, and a few spelling changes, for
> instance
> > > >
> > > > SEE-ZER vs. SEE-zur
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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Hi Star
It's is much easier to be innovative in handwriting than in sending
messages, where you and the receiver have to both use a common font.
Say la vie.
It is interesting that the unvoiced WH sound is most commonly found
in the What,
Which, Why, Where, When words and is more obvious when it starts a
sentence. It reminds me of the voiced "Th" sound (Thou)
Regards, Paul V.
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--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, "Hugh Birkenhead" <mixsynth@...>
wrote:
> I do like your 'hw' letter. It's very similar to the Quikscript
equivalent,
> and being an elegant combination of 'haha' and 'woe' makes perfect
logical
> sense. It's just a shame the Unicode points have been "set in stone"
now.