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F YlsO did not dM wel in hOm ekonomiks n sO tend t get H Tredz mikst
up: (iliterasi in prizonz / pythagoras)
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--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, dshep <dshep@...> wrote:
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> --- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, kris quinn asked:
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> > iz HAt a jes Or a nO?
>
> jes, if F undDstAnd jOr kwescan karektli.
>
> irASanal numbDz, numbDz suc Az Ha skAr
> rMt ov 2 HAt kAnot bI eksprest bF eni
> rASO ov rIl numbDz (HArfOr >irational<) difF
> koman sens, And Hus dM "inkumbD rIzan."
> At lIst, HE dM mFn.
>
>
> (frIkwentli irASanal),
> /dSep
>

--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, kris quinn revealed:

> sori. ... (F fluNkd mAT in JMniOr hF.)


F woz nevD veri gUd At mATs mFself. F Am, HO, fAsanEtad
bF a konsept (HAt mE bI klAsafFd Az mATamAtikal) nOn Az
Ha "gOldan rESO", sapOzadli diskuvDd bF /piTAgaras sum 2500
jirz agO.

Ha gOldan rESO iz Ha nEm fYr a ramyrkabal ralESanSip HAt
akurz Az a razult ov Ha daviZan ov a simpal JIametrik
elamant in suc a wE HAt Ha rESO ov Ha lyrJD pyrt tM Ha
smYlD iz Ha sEm Az Ha rESO ov Ha sum ov Ha 2 pyrts tM
Ha lyrJD.

Yr: a/b = (a+b)/a

His iz mOr HAn mirli a mATamAtikal kjUriosati: HAr yr esTetik
konsakwensaz Az wel, And fYr His rIzan it iz designEtad (bF
AnAlaJi wiH >pi< Az >phi<, sO-cYld AftD /fidias, Ha prazjMmd
skulptD ov Ha stAcjM ov /ATIna Hat wuns stUd in Ha pyrTanon
And HAt ov /zjMs At Olimpia, ragyrdad Az a myrval ov Ha Encant
wurld.

njMmerakli, >phi< iz 1.618........, a numbD, lFk >pi<, HAt nevD
endz, nevD rapIts, And iz Hus irASanal.

egzjMbDantli (At tFmz),
/dSep

a SOrt tFm agO F Askd An ETIist frend hQ hI wUd deskrFb infiniti.
hI sed, "pF--3.14159265...n on n on..."

it never sIsez t amEz mI hQ a person kAn be sO Open-mFnded about
fizikal sFens n, At H sEm tFm, dismis filosofi n spiritjMAliti
Az "nonsensikal JiberiS."
__________________________

AnoHer ?: a wFl bAk mAni responsez inklMded H /rId/SY Alfabet insted
v /rOmAn leterz (Or interspersd wiH dikSonari 'fOren eNglis'). jUrz
iz dun wiH jMnikOd, izent it? F nOrmali jMz wOrdpAd. kAn it be dun
wiH HAt? it iz Izi t uplOd /SY Az a fFl, but hQ iz it dun (oHer Han
jMnikOd wen pOstiN a mesaJ?

_______________________________

--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, dshep <dshep@...> wrote:
>
> --- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, kris quinn revealed:
>
> > sori. ... (F fluNkd mAT in JMniOr hF.)
>
>
> F woz nevD veri gUd At mATs mFself. F Am, HO, fAsanEtad
> bF a konsept (HAt mE bI klAsafFd Az mATamAtikal) nOn Az
> Ha "gOldan rESO", sapOzadli diskuvDd bF /piTAgaras sum 2500
> jirz agO.
>
> Ha gOldan rESO iz Ha nEm fYr a ramyrkabal ralESanSip HAt
> akurz Az a razult ov Ha daviZan ov a simpal JIametrik
> elamant in suc a wE HAt Ha rESO ov Ha lyrJD pyrt tM Ha
> smYlD iz Ha sEm Az Ha rESO ov Ha sum ov Ha 2 pyrts tM
> Ha lyrJD.
>
> Yr: a/b = (a+b)/a
>
> His iz mOr HAn mirli a mATamAtikal kjUriosati: HAr yr esTetik
> konsakwensaz Az wel, And fYr His rIzan it iz designEtad (bF
> AnAlaJi wiH >pi< Az >phi<, sO-cYld AftD /fidias, Ha prazjMmd
> skulptD ov Ha stAcjM ov /ATIna Hat wuns stUd in Ha pyrTanon
> And HAt ov /zjMs At Olimpia, ragyrdad Az a myrval ov Ha Encant
> wurld.
>
> njMmerakli, >phi< iz 1.618........, a numbD, lFk >pi<, HAt nevD
> endz, nevD rapIts, And iz Hus irASanal.
>
> egzjMbDantli (At tFmz),
> /dSep
>

wen F studId kompoziSon in ort skMl wI wer tYt HAt Her wer 4 plAsez on a
kAnvas fOr a senter v interest n HIz wer H intersekSonz wEr wI divFded H
spEs intM Tirdz hOrizontali n vertikali wic waz An aproksimESon v
3.14--H gOlden sekSon.

--7kEren

--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, "krstl quinn" <kris.quin@...>
wrote:
>
>
> a SOrt tFm agO F Askd An ETIist frend hQ hI wUd deskrFb infiniti.
> hI sed, "pF--3.14159265...n on n on..."
>
> it never sIsez t amEz mI hQ a person kAn be sO Open-mFnded about
> fizikal sFens n, At H sEm tFm, dismis filosofi n spiritjMAliti
> Az "nonsensikal JiberiS."
> __________________________
>
> AnoHer ?: a wFl bAk mAni responsez inklMded H /rId/SY Alfabet insted
> v /rOmAn leterz (Or interspersd wiH dikSonari 'fOren eNglis'). jUrz
> iz dun wiH jMnikOd, izent it? F nOrmali jMz wOrdpAd. kAn it be dun
> wiH HAt? it iz Izi t uplOd /SY Az a fFl, but hQ iz it dun (oHer Han
> jMnikOd wen pOstiN a mesaJ?
>
> _______________________________
>
> --- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, dshep dshep@ wrote:
> >
> > --- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, kris quinn revealed:
> >
> > > sori. ... (F fluNkd mAT in JMniOr hF.)
> >
> >
> > F woz nevD veri gUd At mATs mFself. F Am, HO, fAsanEtad
> > bF a konsept (HAt mE bI klAsafFd Az mATamAtikal) nOn Az
> > Ha "gOldan rESO", sapOzadli diskuvDd bF /piTAgaras sum 2500
> > jirz agO.
> >
> > Ha gOldan rESO iz Ha nEm fYr a ramyrkabal ralESanSip HAt
> > akurz Az a razult ov Ha daviZan ov a simpal JIametrik
> > elamant in suc a wE HAt Ha rESO ov Ha lyrJD pyrt tM Ha
> > smYlD iz Ha sEm Az Ha rESO ov Ha sum ov Ha 2 pyrts tM
> > Ha lyrJD.
> >
> > Yr: a/b = (a+b)/a
> >
> > His iz mOr HAn mirli a mATamAtikal kjUriosati: HAr yr esTetik
> > konsakwensaz Az wel, And fYr His rIzan it iz designEtad (bF
> > AnAlaJi wiH >pi< Az >phi<, sO-cYld AftD /fidias, Ha prazjMmd
> > skulptD ov Ha stAcjM ov /ATIna Hat wuns stUd in Ha pyrTanon
> > And HAt ov /zjMs At Olimpia, ragyrdad Az a myrval ov Ha Encant
> > wurld.
> >
> > njMmerakli, >phi< iz 1.618........, a numbD, lFk >pi<, HAt nevD
> > endz, nevD rapIts, And iz Hus irASanal.
> >
> > egzjMbDantli (At tFmz),
> > /dSep
> >
>

fOr som jirz F wOrkd Az An orkitecural ilustrEtOr n, F tM, waz impresd
bF H mATemAtikal AkjUrasi v perspektiv: hQ it waz posibel, on a
2-dimenSonal drYiN t selekt Ani obJekt wiHin it n kAlkjMlEt An egzAkt
meZurment v hQ for bAk in H pikcur H obJekt waz!

--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, "karen greysen" <karen.grey@...>
wrote:
>
>
>
>
> wen F studId kompoziSon in ort skMl wI wer tYt HAt Her wer 4 plAsez on
a
> kAnvas fOr a senter v interest n HIz wer H intersekSonz wEr wI divFded
H
> spEs intM Tirdz hOrizontali n vertikali wic waz An aproksimESon v
> 3.14--H gOlden sekSon.
>
> --7kEren
>
> --- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, "krstl quinn" kris.quin@
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > a SOrt tFm agO F Askd An ETIist frend hQ hI wUd deskrFb infiniti.
> > hI sed, "pF--3.14159265...n on n on..."
> >
> > it never sIsez t amEz mI hQ a person kAn be sO Open-mFnded about
> > fizikal sFens n, At H sEm tFm, dismis filosofi n spiritjMAliti
> > Az "nonsensikal JiberiS."
> > __________________________
> >
> > AnoHer ?: a wFl bAk mAni responsez inklMded H /rId/SY Alfabet insted
> > v /rOmAn leterz (Or interspersd wiH dikSonari 'fOren eNglis'). jUrz
> > iz dun wiH jMnikOd, izent it? F nOrmali jMz wOrdpAd. kAn it be dun
> > wiH HAt? it iz Izi t uplOd /SY Az a fFl, but hQ iz it dun (oHer Han
> > jMnikOd wen pOstiN a mesaJ?
> >
> > _______________________________
> >
> > --- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, dshep dshep@ wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, kris quinn revealed:
> > >
> > > > sori. ... (F fluNkd mAT in JMniOr hF.)
> > >
> > >
> > > F woz nevD veri gUd At mATs mFself. F Am, HO, fAsanEtad
> > > bF a konsept (HAt mE bI klAsafFd Az mATamAtikal) nOn Az
> > > Ha "gOldan rESO", sapOzadli diskuvDd bF /piTAgaras sum 2500
> > > jirz agO.
> > >
> > > Ha gOldan rESO iz Ha nEm fYr a ramyrkabal ralESanSip HAt
> > > akurz Az a razult ov Ha daviZan ov a simpal JIametrik
> > > elamant in suc a wE HAt Ha rESO ov Ha lyrJD pyrt tM Ha
> > > smYlD iz Ha sEm Az Ha rESO ov Ha sum ov Ha 2 pyrts tM
> > > Ha lyrJD.
> > >
> > > Yr: a/b = (a+b)/a
> > >
> > > His iz mOr HAn mirli a mATamAtikal kjUriosati: HAr yr esTetik
> > > konsakwensaz Az wel, And fYr His rIzan it iz designEtad (bF
> > > AnAlaJi wiH >pi< Az >phi<, sO-cYld AftD /fidias, Ha prazjMmd
> > > skulptD ov Ha stAcjM ov /ATIna Hat wuns stUd in Ha pyrTanon
> > > And HAt ov /zjMs At Olimpia, ragyrdad Az a myrval ov Ha Encant
> > > wurld.
> > >
> > > njMmerakli, >phi< iz 1.618........, a numbD, lFk >pi<, HAt nevD
> > > endz, nevD rapIts, And iz Hus irASanal.
> > >
> > > egzjMbDantli (At tFmz),
> > > /dSep
> > >
> >
>

Hi Star
You are quite right. People no longer pronounce How as whow.
I am just suggesting that originally all Question words,
as a English grammatical class were pronounced as words
starting with "wh",
the unvoiced/aspirated /w/. Some have been degraded in to the
voiced /w/ sound and some have been degraded in the direction of
the aspirate /h/ sound (i.e. Who, How, etc.)
Regards, Paul V.
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--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, Star Raven
<celestraof12worlds@...> wrote:
>
> Quick question, Paul: How? The /hw/ or /wh/ or unvoiced/aspirated /w/
sound does not appear in the word how. Does it? I though it was: ha +
out

HAr iz anuHD rIzan tM ramembD /piTAgaras, apyrt frum Ha
fEmas Tiram ov skArz wI Yl lurnd in Qr skMldEz. /piTAgaras
livd sum 2500 jirz agO, abQt Ha sEm tFm Az /kanfjMSas in
cFna And Ha /bMda in india. Just az Ha filasofakal gOlz
HIz men inkuraJd, sOSal stabilati And datAct kampASan, liv
on tM His dE in HAr raspektiv rIJanz, sO duz Ha AtatjMd
pDsonafFd bF /piTAgaras: frI inkwFri — He fQndESan And
sustanans ov westDn sasFati.


Note: An interesting ambiguity occurs when writing >skUldEz< in Shavian.
It can be read either as school-days, or school-daze. Of course, for
some
of us, they were one and the same thing.

perpetually dazed,
dshep

--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, kris quinn wondered:

a SOrt tFm agO F Askd An ETIist frend hQ hI wUd deskrFb infiniti.
hI sed, "pF--3.14159265...n on n on..."

it never sIsez t amEz mI hQ a person kAn be sO Open-mFnded about
fizikal sFens n, At H sEm tFm, dismis filosofi n spiritjMAliti
Az "nonsensikal JiberiS."
__________________________

AnoHer ?: a wFl bAk mAni responsez inklMded H /rId/SY Alfabet insted
v /rOmAn leterz (Or interspersd wiH dikSonari 'fOren eNglis'). jUrz
iz dun wiH jMnikOd, izent it? F nOrmali jMz wOrdpAd. kAn it be dun
wiH HAt? it iz Izi t uplOd /SY Az a fFl, but hQ iz it dun (oHer Han
jMnikOd wen pOstiN a mesaJ?

F must plId fDgetfalnes in His mAtD. mF brQzD jMzaz
sevaral YltDnativz fYr inkOd dafYlts – jMnikOd iz wun
ov Hem - but if it woz set At HAt partikjMlyr cqs At
HAt tFm F dM not rakYl. mF prIvias mesaJ woz sent wiH
'mAk Os rOman', and His Jinarali pradjMsas a gUd rasult
At Ha SYgrMp webpEJ (but duz not kum TrM Az intendad
in Ha mEl dFJest.

sO, Az a test, F SAl send His mesaJ wiH mF brQzD set
At jMnikod (UTF-8). F Am not familjD wiH wurdpAd.

Az fYr Ha peralz ov filosafi, F Am a fAn mFself Az fyr
Az mF limatad abilatiz yr kEpabal, but F rakYl a komant
bF /ricard /fFnman, wun ov Ha grEtast fizasasts ov modDn
tFmz in HAt difakult And veri, veri wIDd fIld ov kwyntam
makAniks, HAt filosafi woz jMslas.

evD jMslas,
/dSep

/JYrJ /bDnyrd /SY

26 JMlI 1856 — 02 navembD 1950

"Yl grEt trMTs bagin Az blAsfamiz."

On this, the occasion of Bernard Shaw's birthday, i should like to
congratulate the author of the Wikipedia article on the Shavian
alphabet for his efforts in presenting the subject in a clear and
concise
manner; a first-rate presentation in my opinion. i believe the author to
be wurdbendur, one of our members, but if it isn't, or if there are
others
to be thanked as well, i hope they shall protest and claim their due.

Wikipedia, i think, has become a really useful instrument for the spread
of knowledge and for the broadening of views, and an article of this
calibre should attract interest and hence new members.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shavian_alphabet

impressed,
dshep