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Well, I see that I should have checked the inbox before allowing my
latest to go out, but it was in the outbox and went out automatically
when I switched on. There were several sensible comments made in the
interim that would have modified what I tried to say.

Philip's reminder that only such distinctions be recognized that
represent separate phonemes is fundamental; all else being built upon
that. It then follows that:

> It's not a new phoneme unless someone uses both an unusual
> pronunciation *and* a more common one *in English* *to make a
> distinction between words*.

That too is a clear principle. I had made some comments about
flexibility, in itself usually a good thing, but best perhaps when
subordinated to basic principles.

I am pleasantly surprised that the thought of adding new letters no
longer, apparently, generates instant hostility--at least it can now
be discussed. I have tried to avoid this issue by opting for fewer
letters through the abandonment of the r-compounds, but if a way can
be found to complete the r-series then I should be all for it. The
compounds do have the advantage of being able to represent easily
both rhotic and non-rhotic accents, an important advantage. However
it might be difficult to avoid one of Star's yucky numbers. What
about 52, as in a deck of cards? It is 52, isn't it? Might I be so
bold as to propose /hw/ /oor/ /oar/ and /er/ as in the sequence which/
sure/shore/where, the latter sound being that of "err" as it
is quite commonly heard in America, and distinct from "air"--the
merry/marry distinction. I hope this ruffles no feathers, or not too
many anyway.

merrily,
dshep

On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 9:11 AM, dshep <dshep@...> wrote:
>
> if a way can be found to
> complete the r-series then I should be all for it.

I would be, too.

> The compounds do have the
> advantage of being able to represent easily both rhotic and non-rhotic
> accents, an important advantage.

That is also my opinion.

> What about 52, as in a deck of cards? It is 52, isn't it?

It is.

> Might I be so bold as to propose /hw/ /oor/ /oar/ and /er/ as in
> the sequence which/sure/shore/where, the latter sound being that of "err" as
> it
> is quite commonly heard in America, and distinct from "air"--the merry/marry
> distinction. I hope this ruffles no feathers, or not too many anyway.

This surprises me, since I have the same sound in "where" and "air" --
and a different sound from either in "merry" and "marry". (I have
those as /meri/, /mAri/ respectively -- without the vowel sounds I
have in cases where rhotic speakers have /r/ --, while "air" is /X/
and "Mary" is /mXri/.)

/oar/ will be tough for me since it's a distinction I don't make, but
I'm not against it in principle.

Cheers,
--
Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>

--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, Star Raven <celestraof12worlds@...>
wrote:
>
> dshep, as usual, your arguments are very well thought out. You've
nearly got me convinced, AND since it's only fair that the alphabet
remain even (49 is a sucky number) then it should be /hw/ and /?/ added.
Except, is there enough distinction between oar/or, or would it be more
necessary to use Poor/pour. Not only is it a sound that even I can
understand, it's also a combination sound, so my aesthetic self likes it
as well. Besides, you had me nearly from "Hello" since, as I have said
before Poor/pour has been beaten into me since grammar school as much as
pin/pen.
>
> I still worry about the slippery slope, though I'm willing to move my
line in the sand back a tad. My loyalty to King George V is simply a
loyalty to Shaw and his stated desires, the problem is that both are
dead and in England, which is a wee bit northwest of my home in
Tennessee--not that I wouldn't *love* to visit! Anyway, the slippery
slope goes as follows: We've added two letters to represent sounds Read
might not have deemed worthy, but which are necessary to *General*
American "RP" if you will. But if we added a symbol for every phoneme,
we would lose the point of the alphabet, not to mention make an already
steep learning curve even steeper. Every school child would have to know
some obscure symbol they may never encounter because they might want to
read a book written by a foreigner who pronounces some letter or
something slightly differently. We don't have a letter for a rolled R as
in Spanish, which would be different from one used in French
> or Japanese. Should we include these as well? Or the S/TS difference?
>
> To be frank, this *ISN'T* IPA. It's not international. It's an
alphabet for pronouncing English. Now, there are four major dialects, if
you will, of English: British, Canadian, American, and Australian/New
Zealand. Each of these places have their own pronunciations, but most
are included in Shaw. Now look at the placed beyond that, the Chinese
who speak English because of the *complexity* of their own dialectal
system, now add to that a native speaker of, say, Arabic, who is going
to pronounce things using his own dialectal clues. Should we include a
soft K as in Hanukkah?
>
> I mean, just a thought,
> --Star
>
> ==========
>
>
> "By Grabthar's hammer, by the sons of Worvan, you shall be avenged!"
> -- Dr. Lazarus, Galaxy Quest
>
>
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>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: dshep dshep@...
> To: shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2008 12:44:09 AM
> Subject: [shawalphabet] re: keyword pronunciation
>
>
> --- In shawalphabet@ yahoogroups. com,
> --- Star Raven <celestraof12worlds@ ...> wrote:
>
> > *blink, blink* Maybe it's just too early in the morning,
> > but I think I missed that class in code breaking school.
> > OED 1? COD 1+?
>
> The Oxford English Dictionary (OED) is the largest dictionary, some
twenty large volumes in all, in the English-speaking world and is
usually considered the ultimate source of especially etymological
derivations. The principal contributor to the First Edition was James
Murray, who compiled a comprehensive notational system for the sounds of
English that was useful on both sides of the Atlantic, perhaps for the
Antipodes as well. Because of its size however, and of course expense, a
Concise Oxford Dictionary (COD) in one volume was compiled by the Fowler
brothers even before the complete OED was published, using a simpler
notational system that remained in use for the next seven or eight
editions until ultimately replaced by IPA notation. The Concise Oxford
is probably the most popular dictionary in Britain; Shaw most probably
had a copy of the edition of his day, if not the larger OED. Henry
Fowler's "Modern English Usage", though now a century old, or
> thereabouts, is still in print and is probably the most readable of
all such books ever published.
>
>
> The second edition of the OED, some thirty years or so ago, scrapped
Murray's (and Fowler's) system and replaced it with IPA notation, which
quickly became standard in the complete range of Oxford dictionaries
even though it is much more exclusive, more "English" than its
predecessor, relying as it does upon narrow RP pronunciation, thus
rendering it less useful for American readers. The man behind this
transformation was one A. C. Gimson, who had previously assumed the
editorship of the English Pronouncing Dictionary (EPD), a book also
still in print, founded by Daniel Jones in the early part of the last
century to provide guidance for foreign students in the mastery of
proper, i.e., Received Pronunciation (a term Jones is believed to have
coined).
>
> Gimson I believe is someone of interest to this group, as I am fairly
certain that it was his modifications of Jones' original notations that
formed the basis for the sound-values of Kingsley Read's Shavian
alphabet. One clue is Read's omission of a compound letter for the
/poor/sure/tour/ group of words to accompany his /ear/err/air/ or/
series. Gimson was of the decided opinion that poor and sure should be
pronounced "po" and "sho", thus no special indication for this sound was
needed. This pronunciation may be heard in the speech of, among others,
Prince Charles.
>
> Fowler's self-explanatory notational system, if I remember correctly,
is as follows:
> rack, reck, rick, rock, ruck, rook;
> mate, mete, mite, mote, mute, moot;
> mare, mere, mire, more, mure, moor;
> bah, bawl; bout, boil;
> barn, burn, born; sour, shower;
> plus an undifferentiated a, e, i, o, u (= schwa)
>
> Couldn't be simpler. It does however include provision for an or/oar
distinction, which you find objectionable although neither Shaw nor
George V, to whom you have expressed some loyalty in adherence to Shaw's
wishes, did so. It is true that in the speech of many these two sounds
have coalesced; Gimson did not recognize a difference, and consequently
Read did not; nor does the current OED. However, I have noticed
something of a comeback for the /or/ as opposed to the /oar/
pronunciation thanks to the nowadays common suffix .org, which to my ear
is clearly in the mouths of most people pronounced /or/ with the vowel
of awful (for those who do not pronounce this word "ahful". Some test
pairs are: short/shore, storm/store, cord/core, lord/lore, sort/sore,
fork/four, and of course the traditional horse/hoarse. Moreover, horror
upon horror, I've noticed some American television commentators
pronouncing .com with the back-rounded short-o, a vowel not even
> included in American vowel lists. Perhaps it will be the next
fashionable thing to do; consider how quickly the pronunciation of
Moscow was changed on the airwaves from MosCOW to MosCOH once the
television people through some process of osmosis decided it was
desirable. No one objected.
>
> > Anyway, while (/hw/) the /w/hw/ distinction is clearer, the oar/or
> distinction is not. I don't see it as up/ado either. I worry about
> > introducing too much to the system and creating a Chinese debacle >
where every word has it's own special character. Or/oar is so minor,
> ... ... ...
> > There has to be a line in the sand, and I draw it at or/oar, as
there
> > would be *no* way to explain it to the non-linguist or even myself
> > in a convincing > way, and would only slow down writing: Bore?
> > Boar? And which do > I use for Lore? Core? War?
>
> Wouldn't it slow down reading to have unnecessary homonyms?
> All distinctions are minor, it seems to me, in terms of actual sound
quality. That is the amazing thing about language, that so much can be
made from unconscious manipulations of such slight differences, Consider
the typical first encounter with a foreign language. Gibberish! How can
they make sense of what they are saying? It all sounds alike. Yet
somehow they do.
>
> quite frequently unconscious,
> dshep
>
>
>
>
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Sorry, must have done something wrong.
What I meant to send was the following:

........................................................................
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Star Raven <celestraof12worlds@...> wrote:

dshep, ...
You've nearly got me convinced...

> --Star
>
> ========= >
> "By Grabthar's hammer, by the sons of Worvan,
> you shall be avenged!"
> -- Dr. Lazarus, Galaxy Quest

Well, thank you. I certainly want to remain in your good graces,
especially in view of all those ominous warnings.

warily,
dshep

I'm not as violent as my signature makes me out to be ;) Actually it's been nice to have a discussion other than the big four. Even if we don't agree. At least it's been civil.

--Star

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----- Original Message ----
From: dshep <dshep@...>
To: shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 9, 2008 4:16:31 AM
Subject: [shawalphabet] re; keyword pronunciation


Sorry, must have done something wrong.
What I meant to send was the following:

............ ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... .......

Star Raven <celestraof12worlds@ ...> wrote:

dshep, ...
You've nearly got me convinced...

> --Star
>
> =========>
> "By Grabthar's hammer, by the sons of Worvan,
> you shall be avenged!"
> -- Dr. Lazarus, Galaxy Quest

Well, thank you. I certainly want to remain in your good graces,
especially in view of all those ominous warnings.

warily,
dshep


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Hmm, 52, a nice round number for we crazy card players. Actually, I think it's cool considering the 26 letters in the alphabet and on a keyboard, which, doubled with the shift key equals *gasp* 52! And I agree with your additions. They are all combination sounds, so would fit nicely at the end, and they solve our major problems. I think, and this is just my opinion, that the next step to take would be to suggest forms for them. I have a couple ideas...

--Star

PS. What I have already in the hand written section is what I wrote before I remembered that I own a tablet digitizer. I'll post some new stuff here in a couple of hours.

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----- Original Message ----
From: Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>
To: shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 9, 2008 3:46:04 AM
Subject: Re: [shawalphabet] re: keyword pronunciation


On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 9:11 AM, dshep <dshep@...> wrote:
>
> if a way can be found to
> complete the r-series then I should be all for it.

I would be, too.

> The compounds do have the
> advantage of being able to represent easily both rhotic and non-rhotic
> accents, an important advantage.

That is also my opinion.

> What about 52, as in a deck of cards? It is 52, isn't it?

It is.

> Might I be so bold as to propose /hw/ /oor/ /oar/ and /er/ as in
> the sequence which/sure/shore/ where, the latter sound being that of "err" as
> it
> is quite commonly heard in America, and distinct from "air"--the merry/marry
> distinction. I hope this ruffles no feathers, or not too many anyway.

This surprises me, since I have the same sound in "where" and "air" --
and a different sound from either in "merry" and "marry". (I have
those as /meri/, /mAri/ respectively -- without the vowel sounds I
have in cases where rhotic speakers have /r/ --, while "air" is /X/
and "Mary" is /mXri/.)

/oar/ will be tough for me since it's a distinction I don't make, but
I'm not against it in principle.

Cheers,
--
Philip Newton <philip.newton@ gmail.com>



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--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, "Philip Newton"
<philip.newton@...> wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 9:11 AM, dshep <dshep@...> wrote:
> >
> > if a way can be found to complete the r-series then I should be
all for it.
>
> I would be, too.

Seconded? Thirded!


> > The compounds do have the advantage of being able to represent
easily both rhotic and non-rhotic accents, an important advantage.
>
> That is also my opinion.

Again, I agree.


> > What about 52, as in a deck of cards? It is 52, isn't it?
>
> It is.

(Unless you count The Joker ... Ha! Ha!)


> > Might I be so bold as to propose /hw/ /oor/ /oar/ and /er/ as in
the sequence which/sure/shore/where, the latter sound being that
of "err" as it is quite commonly heard in America, and distinct
from "air"--the merry/marry distinction. I hope this ruffles no
feathers, or not too many anyway.
>
> This surprises me, since I have the same sound in "where"
and "air" -- and a different sound from either in "merry"
and "marry". (I have those as /meri/, /mAri/ respectively -- without
the vowel sounds I have in cases where rhotic speakers have /r/ --,
while "air" is /X/ and "Mary" is /mXri/.)

Does /X/ stand for /e@/ or for /er/? Either way, I have:
"merry" /meri/
"marry" /mAri/
"air" /e@/ (/X/ if /X/=/e@/)
"where" /hwe@/ (/hwXr/ if /X/=/e@/)
"Mary" /.me@ri/ (/.mXri/ if /X/=/e@/)

(Actually I'm uncertain about Mary; my vowel is more like a double-
length /e/ than anything else.)

> /oar/ will be tough for me since it's a distinction I don't make,
but I'm not against it in principle.

Doesn't worry me if people need it.

Regards,
Yahya

on Friday 9 May, Philip wrote:

>This surprises me, since I have the same sound in "where" and "air" --
>and a different sound from either in "merry" and "marry". (I have
>those as /meri/, /mAri/ respectively -- without the vowel sounds I
>have in cases where rhotic speakers have /r/ --, while "air" is /X/
>and "Mary" is /mXri/.)

>/oar/ will be tough for me since it's a distinction I don't make, but
>I'm not against it in principle.

>Cheers,
>--
>Philip Newton


hmm,

I would spell merry and marry /meri/ and /mAri/ as well, but I would
also use those same two vowels, respectively, in "where" and "there",
whereas I suspect you might use a turned-3+schwa instead in both. I
also rhyme "marry" and "airy". Using the same two vowels, I would
also distinguish "aeronautics" from "aircraft", "error" from "arrow".

This could be another generational thing. I noticed last Christmas
that listening to David Attenborough, whose televised nature
presentations I enjoy, promote the most ambitious yet, one called
Planet Earth, during which he pronounced these words the same as I
do. Well, that was presumptuous, I pronounce them the same way he
does--that's better. Now that I have called upon such a person for
support I should mention that this latest production, now available
on DVD, contains beautiful, often amazing footage from all ends of
the earth, as you might imagine.

Back to "air"--this may be another case in which the keyword can
mislead, just as we have had complaints about "egg", not to mention
"err" and "on". My "air" is a mid-low vowel, rather open, with a
glide, whereas I suspect yours is more of a mid-vowel, and briefer in
production. I shall confess that I cannot bring myself to pronounce
"square" as a monophthong.

As for the oar/soar/ore/shore group of words, if you know a Scot then
perhaps he could render a version for you. They simply make use of
the clear, less-diphthongal "oh" vowel, like French "eau" except less
rounded. I have, or rather had, a rather scratchy download of George
V speaking, which somehow i have managed to erase, but in which I
thought I could hear this northern(?) pronunciation in the word "more".

soaring along,
dshep

re: 153memori


a number kAn YlsO bI cEnJd t a konsOnAnt leter.



Hen, Ani 1 Or 2-diJit number, bF AdiN Or insertiN a vQel, kAn bekom a
wOrd HAt jM kAn viZMalFz.

\t\ hAz 1 dQnstrOk, sO it kUd reprezent H number 1.

Ad a SOrt Or loN vQel: tA, tE, te, tI, ti, tF, to, tO, tu, tM. fOr mI H
obvius prFmari cqs wud bI tI. fOr His F pikcur a tI bAg. Hen wat wUd F
mOst loJikli asOsiEt wiH HAt, fOr a sekondari obJekt? hot wYter? in a tI
kup? a lump \ kjMb v SUgar? a tI spMn t stir it?

wel, mF prFmari pikcur wUd bI a drF /lipton tI bAg bekYz it hAz a striN
n pEper tAb atAcd. fOr tEst F wUd prefer /selestial sIzoniNz tI, but HOz
bAgz or wiHQt H striN Or tAb t hOld Az jM dip it up n dQn in H wYter.

HIz pikcurz or Izier t remember if HE or in mOSon. fOr HAt jM nId An
Animal Or a person dMiN somTiN wiH H obJekt. hAviN met H krIEtOr v
/selestial sIzoniNz befOr hI sOld hiz kompAni t /liptonz, F hAv a pikcur
v him in mF mFnd. hI Askd mI t trF hiz /red ziNer n hAnded mI a kup v it
sugJestiN HAt F Ad a fjM dropsd v honi. sO nAcurali mF sekondari pikcur
wud bI a tI cup v hot wYter wiH a tI bAg submerJd n rApidli turniN H
wYter a brFt red.

sO muc Hen fOr H number 1.

\n\ hAz 2 dQnstrOkz (in /spenserian hAndrFtiN) sO it kUd reprezent H
number 2. wiH a vQel Aded it kUd bI: nA, nE, ne, nI, ni, nF, no, nO, nu,
nM. sins Onli konsonAnts reprezent a number F wUd Ad AnoHer vQel, \a\ t
'nO' mEkiN it H pEtriork, /nOa (in H mMvi, "H bFbel" direkted bF /Jon
hjMston.) hI YlsO plEd H port v /nOa getiN H Animalz intM H ork. mF
viZMalizESon hAz him hOldiN a klip bOrd. it lists Yl H Animalz n hI iz
cekiN Hem Yf Az HE mMv up H rAmp n enter H ork. 'klip bOrd' Hen wUd bI H
sekondari obJekt. suc a 20T senturi obJekt wUd bI An unlFli TiN fOr him
t bI jMziN, but suc An inkongrMiti mEks it Izdier t remember.

a 2-diJit number lFk 12, Hen nIdz a vQel v its On t kreEt a wOrd. pUtiN
a vQel betwIn H leterz \t\ n \n\ kUd bI: tAn, tEn, ten, tIn, tin, tFn,
ton, tOn, tun, tMn.

fOr mI H cqs wud bI tin. F pikcur a turkI abQt t gO intM H oven. it hAz
sIzoniN on it. H kUk rAps tin fql arQnd it, tFiN it on wiH a striN. H
Sef iz /JAk hEli, H tin mAn in "H wizord v /oz". striN, Hen, iz H
sekondari obJekt. HIz enAbel jM t remember in egzAkt sIkwens, fOrword Or
bAkword, Az mAni Az 9,999 itemz. fOr ekzAmpel, 2 2-dijit numberz; sE
2022. hQ wUd jM remembedr HAt it waz not 2220? bekYz 20 iz H prFmari
pikcur (a nOz); fOr 22 (nun) jM wUd fOkus on her rOzari bIdz (H
sekondari obJekt SI hAz wiH her).

t remember a 7-diJit fOn number, Or a 9-diJit sOSial sekjUrit number jM

kUd insert vQelz t kreEt wOrdz Or a 9-wOrd sentens jMziN H first leter v
Ic word t retrIv H number.

fOr, sE, a 13-diJit number lFk 5342482337666 jM kUd striN togeHer a
left-t-rFt piktOrial sIkwens

HAt jM wUd bI unEbel t fOrget fOr Az loN Az jUr brEn remEnd helTi.

oHer posibilitIz or YlmOst endles.

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--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, "filip tripelo" wrote:
>
> re: 153memori
>
>
> a number kAn YlsO bI cEnJd t a konsOnAnt leter.
>
>
>
> Hen, Ani 1 Or 2-diJit number, bF AdiN Or insertiN a vQel, kAn bekom
a
> wOrd HAt jM kAn viZMalFz.
>
> \t\ hAz 1 dQnstrOk, sO it kUd reprezent H number 1.
>
> Ad a SOrt Or loN vQel: tA, tE, te, tI, ti, tF, to, tO, tu, tM. fOr
mI H
> obvius prFmari cqs wud bI tI. fOr His F pikcur a tI bAg. Hen wat
wUd F
> mOst loJikli asOsiEt wiH HAt, fOr a sekondari obJekt? hot wYter? in
a tI
> kup? a lump \ kjMb v SUgar? a tI spMn t stir it?
>
> wel, mF prFmari pikcur wUd bI a drF /lipton tI bAg bekYz it hAz a
striN
> n pEper tAb atAcd. fOr tEst F wUd prefer /selestial sIzoniNz tI,
but HOz
> bAgz or wiHQt H striN Or tAb t hOld Az jM dip it up n dQn in H
wYter.
>
> HIz pikcurz or Izier t remember if HE or in mOSon. fOr HAt jM nId An
> Animal Or a person dMiN somTiN wiH H obJekt. hAviN met H krIEtOr v
> /selestial sIzoniNz befOr hI sOld hiz kompAni t /liptonz, F hAv a
pikcur
> v him in mF mFnd. hI Askd mI t trF hiz /red ziNer n hAnded mI a kup
v it
> sugJestiN HAt F Ad a fjM dropsd v honi. sO nAcurali mF sekondari
pikcur
> wud bI a tI cup v hot wYter wiH a tI bAg submerJd n rApidli turniN H
> wYter a brFt red.
>
> sO muc Hen fOr H number 1.
>
> \n\ hAz 2 dQnstrOkz (in /spenserian hAndrFtiN) sO it kUd reprezent H
> number 2. wiH a vQel Aded it kUd bI: nA, nE, ne, nI, ni, nF, no,
nO, nu,
> nM. sins Onli konsonAnts reprezent a number F wUd Ad AnoHer vQel,
\a\ t
> 'nO' mEkiN it H pEtriork, /nOa (in H mMvi, "H bFbel" direkted
bF /Jon
> hjMston.) hI YlsO plEd H port v /nOa getiN H Animalz intM H ork. mF
> viZMalizESon hAz him hOldiN a klip bOrd. it lists Yl H Animalz n hI
iz
> cekiN Hem Yf Az HE mMv up H rAmp n enter H ork. 'klip bOrd' Hen wUd
bI H
> sekondari obJekt. suc a 20T senturi obJekt wUd bI An unlFli TiN fOr
him
> t bI jMziN, but suc An inkongrMiti mEks it Izdier t remember.
>
> a 2-diJit number lFk 12, Hen nIdz a vQel v its On t kreEt a wOrd.
pUtiN
> a vQel betwIn H leterz \t\ n \n\ kUd bI: tAn, tEn, ten, tIn, tin,
tFn,
> ton, tOn, tun, tMn.
>
> fOr mI H cqs wud bI tin. F pikcur a turkI abQt t gO intM H oven. it
hAz
> sIzoniN on it. H kUk rAps tin fql arQnd it, tFiN it on wiH a striN.
H
> Sef iz /JAk hEli, H tin mAn in "H wizord v /oz". striN, Hen, iz H
> sekondari obJekt. HIz enAbel jM t remember in egzAkt sIkwens,
fOrword Or
> bAkword, Az mAni Az 9,999 itemz. fOr ekzAmpel, 2 2-dijit numberz; sE
> 2022. hQ wUd jM remembedr HAt it waz not 2220? bekYz 20 iz H prFmari
> pikcur (a nOz); fOr 22 (nun) jM wUd fOkus on her rOzari bIdz (H
> sekondari obJekt SI hAz wiH her).
>
> t remember a 7-diJit fOn number, Or a 9-diJit sOSial sekjUrit
number jM
>
> kUd insert vQelz t kreEt wOrdz Or a 9-wOrd sentens jMziN H first
leter v
> Ic word t retrIv H number.
>
> fOr, sE, a 13-diJit number lFk 5342482337666 jM kUd striN togeHer a
> left-t-rFt piktOrial sIkwens
>
> HAt jM wUd bI unEbel t fOrget fOr Az loN Az jUr brEn remEnd helTi.
>
> oHer posibilitIz or YlmOst endles.
>
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