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--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, dshep wrote:


> test test test test
> in kulD nO les
>
> wil it kum TrM?
> Sud it bI blM?
>
> ??


ansuksesfal atemt tM Vz SY And in kulD
duz not wurk nQ

?????

dSep

writan in SEvian,
writan in red

mEbi F Sud
just gO tM bed

dSep

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Begin forwarded message:

> From: david sheppard <dshep@...>
> Date: 01 April2005 03:05:36 EST
> To: shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: another try
>
> writan in SEvian,
> writan in red
>
> mEbi F Sud
> just gO tM bed
>
> dSep
>

hF - F sY H kulD but it lUkt lFk /rOman letDz, not /SEvWn.
--f.

-----Original Message-----
From: david sheppard [mailto:dshep@...]
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:29 AM
To: shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [shawalphabet] test



test test test test

in kulD nO les


wil it kum TrM?

Sud it bI blM?


??

nFHD atempt wxkt fP mI. -- /f.

-----Original Message-----
From: david sheppard [mailto:dshep@...]
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:09 AM
To: shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [shawalphabet] Fwd: another try





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Begin forwarded message:


From: david sheppard <dshep@...>

Date: 01 April2005 03:05:36 EST

To: shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com

Subject: another try


writan in SEvian,

writan in red


mEbi F Sud

just gO tM bed


dSep

unfPcanatlI nO,

H font duznt SO.



/hV /b



_____

From: david sheppard [mailto:dshep@...]
Sent: 01 April 2005 08:29
To: shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [shawalphabet] test



test test test test
in kulD nO les

wil it kum TrM?
Sud it bI blM?

??

--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com,
"Newton, Philip" wrote:

> nFHD atempt wxkt fP mI. -- /f.


> writan in SEvian,
> writan in red
>
> mEbi F Sud
> just gO tM bed
>
> dSep


Sorry to have clogged up the postings with several tests,
all a little different, none sucessful. I do not understand
why there would have been one success last week, but
none now, though I tried to repeat in every way possible.

The curious thing now is that I can no longer receive on
my browser a message in Shavian; if you recall I could
previously and thought prematurely and incorrectly that
everyone else could too. The Yahoo interface has in the
meantime changed which may (or may not) have something
to do with such inconsistencies.

Would you retrieve message 839 (the one you reported
came through correctly) from the archives to see if it can
still be viewed as it was meant to be seen. If not then it
appears we are still stuck on square one (or do you know
what to do, I don't)

regards,
dshep

On Apr 3, 2005 8:14 AM, dshepx <dshep@...> wrote:
>
> Would you retrieve message 839 (the one you reported
> came through correctly) from the archives to see if it can
> still be viewed as it was meant to be seen.

It appears in Roman to me. However, I suspect that this would have
been the case even at the time I received the message, since the "rich
text" bit uses the MIME text/enriched content type, which some email
clients support but which browsers do not (TTBOMK). Neither, I
suppose, does the Yahoo!Groups web interface, so it simply displays
the text/plain part, which cannot have any formatting applied to it.

So even if more people had email clients supporting text/enriched, it
would still appear in plain text in the web archives.

Cheers,
--
Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>

You can test by sending yourself messages.
I use an old Mac for emails, forwarding the ones I need to another computer.

Postings from yahoo groups come as digests, with attachments stripped.
I can read Shavian keyboard mappings, but would prefer to read Shavian.

I know from experience that keyboards, codes and locales all corrupt text.

At present I'm at the all-or-nothing stage (all Shavian or all ASCII).
Will post again when I have something in Unicode.
Cryptically,
jb

I was checking out this issue, too. I looked at a few of my old messages
that were supposed to be HTML (however reliable that is), but it was all
Roman. I think the problem is that Yahoo!'s new Style Sheets are overriding
the fonts in our messages. Of course, it's also likely that Yahoo! doesn't
handle rich text. The combination would make non-Unicode Shavian impossible
to use on the Web interface. I'm almost certain this is the case: Several
old messages which appeared perfectly before now do not. Maybe we should
bring this to the attention of Yahoo!. In the mean time, though, it seems
like those of us using the Web interface are stuck with the Unicode gap.

Regards,
Joe Spicer
/JO spFsD



On 4/3/05 1:20 AM, "Philip Newton" <philip.newton@...> wrote:

>
> On Apr 3, 2005 8:14 AM, dshepx <dshep@...> wrote:
>>
>> Would you retrieve message 839 (the one you reported
>> came through correctly) from the archives to see if it can
>> still be viewed as it was meant to be seen.
>
> It appears in Roman to me. However, I suspect that this would have
> been the case even at the time I received the message, since the "rich
> text" bit uses the MIME text/enriched content type, which some email
> clients support but which browsers do not (TTBOMK). Neither, I
> suppose, does the Yahoo!Groups web interface, so it simply displays
> the text/plain part, which cannot have any formatting applied to it.
>
> So even if more people had email clients supporting text/enriched, it
> would still appear in plain text in the web archives.
>
> Cheers,