In the message "[shavian] Shavian e-mail formatting" dated 1999.03.01 (6:40
AM -0500), Lionel Ghoti wrote:
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN">
> <HTML>
> <HEAD>
>
> <META content=text/html;charset=iso-8859-1
>http-equiv=Content-Type><TITLE>Shavian Email Template</TITLE><!DOCTYPE
>HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD
>W3 HTML//EN"><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"><BASE
> href="file://C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Stationery\">
> <META content='"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=GENERATOR>
> </HEAD>
> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
> <P><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=1>Part of the HTML-formatted text
>below
> is written in the Shavian alphabet. To read it you will need a Shavian font,
> such as Lionspaw, Shaw-Gothic or Shaw-Rough. Links explaining where you can
> download them can be found at <A
href="http://www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/den/shavian/fonts.html">www.homeusers.p
restel.co.uk/den/shavian/fonts.html</A></FONT></P>
> <P><FONT color=#000000 face=Lionspaw size=5
> ,"Shaw","Shaw-Rough","Shaw-Gothic","Shaw Rough","Shaw
> Gothic","Shavian"></FONT>Michael Rider asked if people prefer HTML or
>rich-text
> formatting in e-mail, and I'm confused. I thought that there were only
>two types
> of e-mail formatting: plain text and HTML-formatted text. Is there some
>sort of
> RTF standard as well? I use Outlook Express, and I prefer HTML-formatted
>e-mail
> (though Michael's Shavian text didn't appear properly on my computer,
>because
> the font name he used was "ShawRough", but the Shaw Rough font
>I have
> on my computer is registered with Windows as "Shaw"). I've
>created an
> HTML stationery file to be used with Outlook Express, which specifies the
>names
> of all the Shavian fonts I know of. This <EM>seems</EM> to work fine, but
>I've
> looked at the HTML of the messages I've sent, and it seems that Outlook
>Express
> has fiddled around with the HTML tags from my template, inserting all
>sorts of
> weird character combinations. Could everyone please tell me whether or
>not the
> Shavian portion of this message displays properly in their email program?</P>
Actually, Eudora Pro 4.0 (Macintosh) couldn't make heads or tails
of it and neither could anything else I have that can read HTML, except
Internet Explorer which did display it properly. The problem was the weird
MSHTML that only MS tools seem to understand properly. The strange font
tags were the greatest cause of trouble.
> <P><FONT color=#000000 face=Lionspaw size=5
> ,"Shaw","Shaw-Rough","Shaw-Gothic","Shaw Rough","Shaw
>Gothic","Shavian">/mFkal
The non-quoted stuff I can live with, but listing alternate fonts
in a comma delimited list inside the font tag after everything else? And
the purpose of the multiple doctype declarations is a mystery to me.
There is an RTF format for sending styled text in mail that Eudora,
Cyberdog and MacSOUP use. Others may or may not support it but the most
common mail readers seem to be Netscape, OE and AOL and I'm not sure how
well they understand it.
Maybe we could try sending out two versions with an [HTML] tag in
the subject of the formatted version. Eudora gives you the option of
stripping out styles on send so it would be easy to queue the same message
twice with and without HTML. In fact I sent a copy of that last message
directly to Quozl that way because he's on a shell account.
Or perhaps attaching RTF files to unstyled messages, which might be
less troublesome.
There is also a slight issue that may be the cause of
Dennis/Quozl's problem. I notice that the names listed for the DeMeyere
fonts in this message were Shaw-Gothic and Shaw-Rough and 'Shaw Gothic' and
'Shaw Rough'. The names they have on Macintosh are ShawGothic and
ShawRough, which my earlier message used.
--
Michael J. Rider, aka Ixbalam http://i.am/ixbalam
"Power may justly be compared to a great River, which while kept within
its due Bounds, is both Beautiful and Useful; but when it overflows
its Banks, it is then too impetuous to be stemm'd, bears down all
before it, and brings Destruction and Desolation wherever it comes."
-John Peter Zenger
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