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Hi Seb,

I would write "penance" as "penans" in Shavian.

best of regards,

Carl

Seb <sebii@...> wrote:


How does one write this in shavian? For example, how does one
write "penance"?

The closest I could get is "penens".

That doesn't sound right to me...forgive me beacaue I just began
learning something like half an hour ago.

Cheers,
Seb






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Seb, Carl, and other Shavians,

Shavian is a dicitonary key spelling of English.
If you want to know the correct spelling, find and transcribe the dictionary key spelling.

Most dictionary keys recognize schwa - an unstressed mid lax vowel.

Schwa spelling may be a little difficult for novices to pick up. It takes a some practice.

It is based on the fact that one of the key features of English speech is relative stress.
In many languages, length or duration is critical, in English the important feature is stress.

In English, almost every multisyllable word will have relative stress. All unstressed vowels can be represented with a schwa. This means that there can be radical changes in the root: fótó, fót&graf, f&tägr&fy, f&tägr&f&r, etc. A spelling system that maintains the spelling of the root no matter how the word is pronounced is called morphemic.

A schwa is very short. At 50 ms in length it is shorter than other short vowels which are usually over 100 ms in duration.

For example, penance at www.m-w.com <http://www.m-w.com> is transcribed as 'pen-&n(t)s
Some speakers do not distinguish penance and pennants.
This means that <ce> may reference /ts/.

REF: www.foolswisdom.com/~sbett <http://www.foolswisdom.com/~sbett>
check out schwa.htm and related topics

Hi Seb,

I would write "penance" as "penans" in Shavian. --Carl

Seb <sebii@...> wrote:

How does one write this in shavian? For example, how does one write "penance"?

The closest I could get is "penens".

That doesn't sound right to me...forgive me beacaue I just began learning something like half an hour ago.

Cheers, Seb


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I got that you convert dictionary keys to Shavian, the problem is there are any number of characters that can be used. For example what is the difference between "a" and "u"?

Is there a key that shows which Shavian characters should be used for which sounds in a more detailed fashion than the one supplied on the official Shavian site (preferably with some more detailed examples)?

I need example that will tell me which characters to use when certain sounds are succeeded with certain other sounds. For example the difference when using Roman between "a-rrived" and "a-ccess" or "u-gly" and "u-lysses".

Thanks,
Seb

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To: shavian@... <mailto:shavian@...> ; euro-english@... <mailto:euro-english@...>
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Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 6:48 AM
Subject: Re: [shavian] How to write "ance"?

Seb, Carl, and other Shavians,

Shavian is a dicitonary key spelling of English.
If you want to know the correct spelling, find and transcribe the dictionary key spelling.

Most dictionary keys recognize schwa - an unstressed mid lax vowel.

Schwa spelling may be a little difficult for novices to pick up. It takes a some practice.

It is based on the fact that one of the key features of English speech is relative stress.
In many languages, length or duration is critical, in English the important feature is stress.

In English, almost every multisyllable word will have relative stress. All unstressed vowels can be represented with a schwa. This means that there can be radical changes in the root: fótó, fót&graf, f&tägr&fy, f&tägr&f&r, etc. A spelling system that maintains the spelling of the root no matter how the word is pronounced is called morphemic.

A schwa is very short. At 50 ms in length it is shorter than other short vowels which are usually over 100 ms in duration.

For example, penance at www.m-w.com <http://www.m-w.com> is transcribed as 'pen-&n(t)s
Some speakers do not distinguish penance and pennants.
This means that <ce> may reference /ts/.

REF: www.foolswisdom.com/~sbett <http://www.foolswisdom.com/~sbett>
check out schwa.htm and related topics

Hi Seb,

I would write "penance" as "penans" in Shavian. --Carl

Seb <sebii@...> wrote:

How does one write this in shavian? For example, how does one write "penance"?

The closest I could get is "penens".

That doesn't sound right to me...forgive me beacaue I just began learning something like half an hour ago.

Cheers, Seb



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Seb,

If you look at the IPA/Shavian chart, you will see that a corresponds to the unstressed schwa and u to /^/, the sound in up. Both are used in the word abut. Webster: /&'b&t/
The two vowels in abut share the same quality but one is unstressed and very short compared to the other. www.foolswisdom.com/~sbett/shaw-short.htm <http://www.foolswisdom.com/~sbett/shaw-short.htm>

I presume that you have a Shavian chart that provides key words that contain the reference sound. Some of these are less than ideal due to differences in pronunciation in different dialects.

Problem words:
arived arFvd
ugly ugli or uglI
access 'Akses also ik'ses 'ak-"ses also ik-'ses
*note this is one of the rare cases where there may be no unstressed syllable.
Ulysses jvlisez also jvlisaz
Pronunciation: yu-'li-(")sEz
Etymology: Latin Ulysses, Ulixes, from Greek Oulixes, Olysseus, Odysseus

I got that you convert dictionary keys to Shavian, the problem is there are any number of characters that can be used. For example what is the difference between "a" and "u"?

Is there a key that shows which Shavian characters should be used for which sounds in a more detailed fashion than the one supplied on the official Shavian site (preferably with some more detailed examples)?

I need example that will tell me which characters to use when certain sounds are succeeded with certain other sounds. For example the difference when using Roman between "a-rrived" and "a-ccess" or "u-gly" and "u-lysses".

Thanks,
Seb

----- Original Message -----
From: stbetta@... <mailto:stbetta@...>
To: shavian@... <mailto:shavian@...> ; euro-english@... <mailto:euro-english@...>
Cc: shawalphabet@... <mailto:shawalphabet@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 6:48 AM
Subject: Re: [shavian] How to write "ance"?


Seb, Carl, and other Shavians,

Shavian is a dicitonary key spelling of English.
If you want to know the correct spelling, find and transcribe the dictionary key spelling.

Most dictionary keys recognize schwa - an unstressed mid lax vowel.

Schwa spelling may be a little difficult for novices to pick up. It takes a some practice.

It is based on the fact that one of the key features of English speech is relative stress.
In many languages, length or duration is critical, in English the important feature is stress.

In English, almost every multisyllable word will have relative stress. All unstressed vowels can be represented with a schwa. This means that there can be radical changes in the root: fótó, fót&graf, f&tägr&fy, f&tägr&f&r, etc. A spelling system that maintains the spelling of the root no matter how the word is pronounced is called morphemic.

A schwa is very short. At 50 ms in length it is shorter than other short vowels which are usually over 100 ms in duration.

For example, penance at http://www.m-w.com/ <http://www.m-w.com/> is transcribed as 'pen-&n(t)s
Some speakers do not distinguish penance and pennants.
This means that <ce> may reference /ts/.

REF: www.foolswisdom.com/~sbett <http://www.foolswisdom.com/~sbett>
check out schwa.htm and related topics


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LOL I'm finally getting it. Do you know what really caught me? The word "a-do". I'm Australian and here we pronounce this word "u-doo" (well at least that's the way I've heard it pronounced)....hilarious. I'm noticing this problem alot. Whatever I read in Shavian, I have to pretend I am doing so with a heavy American accent. It's very annoying but I am getting the hang of it.

Thanks,
Seb

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Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 8:45 PM
Subject: [shavian] Difference between a and u in Shavian

Seb,

If you look at the IPA/Shavian chart, you will see that a corresponds to the unstressed schwa and u to /^/, the sound in up. Both are used in the word abut. Webster: /&'b&t/
The two vowels in abut share the same quality but one is unstressed and very short compared to the other. www.foolswisdom.com/~sbett/shaw-short.htm <http://www.foolswisdom.com/~sbett/shaw-short.htm>

I presume that you have a Shavian chart that provides key words that contain the reference sound. Some of these are less than ideal due to differences in pronunciation in different dialects.

Problem words:
arived arFvd
ugly ugli or uglI
access 'Akses also ik'ses 'ak-"ses also ik-'ses
*note this is one of the rare cases where there may be no unstressed syllable.
Ulysses jvlisez also jvlisaz
Pronunciation: yu-'li-(")sEz
Etymology: Latin Ulysses, Ulixes, from Greek Oulixes, Olysseus, Odysseus

I got that you convert dictionary keys to Shavian, the problem is there are any number of characters that can be used. For example what is the difference between "a" and "u"?

Is there a key that shows which Shavian characters should be used for which sounds in a more detailed fashion than the one supplied on the official Shavian site (preferably with some more detailed examples)?

I need example that will tell me which characters to use when certain sounds are succeeded with certain other sounds. For example the difference when using Roman between "a-rrived" and "a-ccess" or "u-gly" and "u-lysses".

Thanks,
Seb

----- Original Message -----
From: stbetta@... <mailto:stbetta@...>
To: shavian@... <mailto:shavian@...> ; euro-english@... <mailto:euro-english@...>
Cc: shawalphabet@... <mailto:shawalphabet@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 6:48 AM
Subject: Re: [shavian] How to write "ance"?


Seb, Carl, and other Shavians,

Shavian is a dicitonary key spelling of English.
If you want to know the correct spelling, find and transcribe the dictionary key spelling.

Most dictionary keys recognize schwa - an unstressed mid lax vowel.

Schwa spelling may be a little difficult for novices to pick up. It takes a some practice.

It is based on the fact that one of the key features of English speech is relative stress.
In many languages, length or duration is critical, in English the important feature is stress.

In English, almost every multisyllable word will have relative stress. All unstressed vowels can be represented with a schwa. This means that there can be radical changes in the root: fótó, fót&graf, f&tägr&fy, f&tägr&f&r, etc. A spelling system that maintains the spelling of the root no matter how the word is pronounced is called morphemic.

A schwa is very short. At 50 ms in length it is shorter than other short vowels which are usually over 100 ms in duration.

For example, penance at http://www.m-w.com/ <http://www.m-w.com/> is transcribed as 'pen-&n(t)s
Some speakers do not distinguish penance and pennants.
This means that <ce> may reference /ts/.

REF: www.foolswisdom.com/~sbett <http://www.foolswisdom.com/~sbett>
check out schwa.htm and related topics



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If you want advice on how to best use the American Heritage Dictionary (at www.dictionary.com) to check Shavian spellings, refer to http://mixsynth.fearfulsilence.com/shavian/ahdpronshaw.htm. It shows how the AHD’s pronunciation guide symbols relate to Shavian letters.



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From: Seb [mailto:sebii@...]
Sent: 02 December 2004 08:48
To: shavian@...
Subject: Re: [shavian] How to write "ance"?



I got that you convert dictionary keys to Shavian, the problem is there are any number of characters that can be used. For example what is the difference between "a" and "u"?



Is there a key that shows which Shavian characters should be used for which sounds in a more detailed fashion than the one supplied on the official Shavian site (preferably with some more detailed examples)?



I need example that will tell me which characters to use when certain sounds are succeeded with certain other sounds. For example the difference when using Roman between "a-rrived" and "a-ccess" or "u-gly" and "u-lysses".



Thanks,

Seb

----- Original Message -----

From: stbetta@... <mailto:stbetta@...>

To: shavian@... <mailto:shavian@...> ; euro-english@... <mailto:euro-english@...>

Cc: shawalphabet@... <mailto:shawalphabet@...>

Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 6:48 AM

Subject: Re: [shavian] How to write "ance"?



Seb, Carl, and other Shavians,



Shavian is a dicitonary key spelling of English.
If you want to know the correct spelling, find and transcribe the dictionary key spelling.



Most dictionary keys recognize schwa - an unstressed mid lax vowel.



Schwa spelling may be a little difficult for novices to pick up. It takes a some practice.



It is based on the fact that one of the key features of English speech is relative stress.
In many languages, length or duration is critical, in English the important feature is stress.



In English, almost every multisyllable word will have relative stress. All unstressed vowels can be represented with a schwa. This means that there can be radical changes in the root: fótó, fót&graf, f&tägr&fy, f&tägr&f&r, etc. A spelling system that maintains the spelling of the root no matter how the word is pronounced is called morphemic.



A schwa is very short. At 50 ms in length it is shorter than other short vowels which are usually over 100 ms in duration.



For example, penance at www.m-w.com <http://www.m-w.com> is transcribed as 'pen-&n(t)s
Some speakers do not distinguish penance and pennants.
This means that <ce> may reference /ts/.



REF: www.foolswisdom.com/~sbett <http://www.foolswisdom.com/~sbett>

check out schwa.htm and related topics

Hi Seb,



I would write "penance" as "penans" in Shavian. --Carl

Seb <sebii@...> wrote:

How does one write this in shavian? For example, how does one write "penance"?

The closest I could get is "penens".

That doesn't sound right to me...forgive me beacaue I just began learning something like half an hour ago.

Cheers, Seb







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If you want to understand the problem that people have with
Shavian, take a look at Tengwar....an equally opaque phonemic
representation of English.

The problem is that there is little connection between a string of tengwar symbols
and a string of Roman symbols. One has to learn the symbol-sound correpondences
and then identify the pronunciation with ones ear vocabulary.

Wið an orthografi sûch az Webster-Latin1 or WL1, wun kan úzúøli rekogníz ð wørd.

--Steve

Introduction <http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/intro.html> | Tengwar


This table shows how to use the Tengwar to represent consonants. I also show the name of each letter.

I II III IV
1 <http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/tinco.gif> t as in time
tinco
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/parma.gif> p as in pass
parma
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/calma.gif> ch as in chill
calma
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/quesse.gif> k as in can
quesse
2 <http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/ando.gif> d as in do
ando
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/umbar.gif> b as in bit
umbar
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/anga.gif> j as in just
anga
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/ungwe.gif> g as in go
ungwe
3 <http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/thuule.gif> th as in think
thuule
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/formen.gif> f as in field
formen
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/harma.gif> sh as in sheet
harma
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/hwesta.gif> kh as in loch
hwesta
4 <http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/anto.gif> dh as in then
anto
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/ampa.gif> v as in vast
ampa
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/anca.gif> zh as in leisure
anca
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/unque.gif> (not used)
unque
5 <http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/nuumen.gif> n as in not
nuumen
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/malta.gif> m as in mind
malta
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/noldo.gif> ny as in canyon
noldo
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/nwalme.gif> ng as in sing
nwalme
6 <http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/oore.gif> r as in star
oore
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/vala.gif> w as in wild
vala
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/anna.gif> y as in yes
anna
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/vilya.gif> qu as in queen
vilya

<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/roomen.gif> r as in right
roomen
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/arda.gif> rd as in hard
arda
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/lambe.gif> l as in light
lambe
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/alda.gif> ld as in told
alda
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/silme.gif> s as in silver
silme
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/silme_nuquerna.gif> s as in silver
silme
nuquerna
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/aaze.gif> z as in cause
aaze

<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/aaze_nuquerna.gif> z as in cause
aaze
nuquerna
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/hyarmen.gif> h as in hill
hyarmen
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/yanta.gif> y as in try
yanta
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/uure.gif> w as in gown
uure
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/the.gif> "the"
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/of.gif> "of"
<http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/let/of_the.gif> "of the"


http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/teng.html

In this mode vala <http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/sm_let/vala.gif> and anna <http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/sm_let/anna.gif> are used for W and Y when used as consonants.
Uure <http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/sm_let/uure.gif> and yanta <http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/sm_let/yanta.gif> are used for W and Y when they appear as part of a vowel sound.

war — <http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/ex2/war.gif> yet — <http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/ex2/yet.gif>
gown — <http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/ex2/gown.gif> gay — <http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/ex2/gay.gif>


A bar over the tengwa, but under any tehta, should be used for a preceeding N or M that is part of the same syllable.


bond — <http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/ex2/bond.gif> camp — <http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/ex2/camp.gif>
tent — <http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/ex2/tent.gif> gamble <http://000info.com/?go=gamble> — <http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/ex2/gamble.gif>
song — <http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/ex2/song.gif> somnambulant — <http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/ex2/somnambulant.gif>

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Hi Steve

Eek!
Problem or benefit.
It all depends on you point of view.

If you want a phonetic Alphabet based on the Roman Alphabet
you should used Pitman's I.T.A.
If you want a replacement Phonetic Alphabet for English, that is
completely divorced from the Traditional Orthography
then you use the Shavian Alphabet.

Which one do you want.

Regards, Paul V.

P.S. I will copy this note to the new Shaw Alphabet Group at Yahoo.

--- In shavian@..., stbetta@a... wrote:
> If you want to understand the problem that people have with
> Shavian, take a look at Tengwar....an equally opaque phonemic
> representation of English.
> The problem is that there is little connection between a string of
tengwar
> symbols
> and a string of Roman symbols. One has to learn the symbol-sound
> correpondences
> and then identify the pronunciation with ones ear vocabulary.
>
> Wið an orthografi sûch az Webster-Latin1 or WL1, wun kan
úzúøli rekogníz ð
> wørd.
>
> --Steve
> Introduction | Tengwar
> This table shows how to use the Tengwar to represent consonants. I
also show
> the name of each letter.
> IIIIIIIV
> 1t as in time
> tinco
> p as in pass
> parma
> ch as in chill
> calma
> k as in can
> quesse
>
> 2d as in do
> ando
> b as in bit
> umbar
> j as in just
> anga
> g as in go
> ungwe
>
> 3th as in think
> thuule
> f as in field
> formen
> sh as in sheet
> harma
> kh as in loch
> hwesta
>
> 4dh as in then
> anto
> v as in vast
> ampa
> zh as in leisure
> anca
> (not used)
> unque
>
> 5n as in not
> nuumen
> m as in mind
> malta
> ny as in canyon
> noldo
> ng as in sing
> nwalme
>
> 6r as in star
> oore
> w as in wild
> vala
> y as in yes
> anna
> qu as in queen
> vilya
>
>
> r as in right
> roomen
> rd as in hard
> arda
> l as in light
> lambe
> ld as in told
> alda
>
> s as in silver
> silme
> s as in silver
> silme
> nuquerna
> z as in cause
> aaze
> z as in cause
> aaze
> nuquerna
>
> h as in hill
> hyarmen
> y as in try
> yanta
> w as in gown
> uure
>
> "the"
> "of"
> "of the"
>
>
> http://www.skymind.com/~ocrow/tengwar/teng.html
>
> In this mode vala and anna are used for W and Y when used as
consonants.
> Uure and yanta are used for W and Y when they appear as part of
a vowel
> sound.
> war â€" yet â€"
> gown â€" gay â€"
>
>
> A bar over the tengwa, but under any tehta, should be used for a
preceeding N
> or M that is part of the same syllable.
>
> bond â€" camp â€"
> tent â€" gamble â€"
> song â€" somnambulant â€"





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Paul,

Please make the note shorter if you do copy it.
The moderator probably thinks that this discussion is off topic.

Phonemic Alphabets:

Roman based Historical Non Roman
-------------------- ------------- -----------------
IPA Shavian
Webster Tengwar
i/t/a PMF - PMF uses Shavian shapes but calls them streamlined Roman.
New Spelling
Sound Spel [fonetic]
Truespel [marks stress with dbl letters]
Spanglish [there are a 100 others]

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PV: It all depends on you point of view.

If you want a phonetic Alphabet based on the Roman Alphabet
you should used Pitman's I.T.A.
If you want a replacement Phonetic Alphabet for English, that is
completely divorced from the Traditional Orthography
then you use the Shavian Alphabet.

Which one do you want.

There are more options than that and it does depend on what you want.
If you want something that can be rapidly written, then Shavian is a good choice.
If you want something that can be rapidly typed or email compatible, then you probably want something else.

Both IPA and Shavian contain special characters that are generally not supported with Web fonts. IPA can be written in Unicode. Shavian will eventually have this option.

As you mentioned earlier, the i/t/a lacks a unique schwa symbol.
There are other similar schemes that do so why wouldn't you consider
these instead of the i/t/a?

--Steve


--- In shavian@..., stbetta@a... wrote:
> If you want to understand the problem that people have with
> Shavian, take a look at Tengwar....an equally opaque phonemic
> representation of English.
> The problem is that there is little connection between a string of tengwar
> symbols
> and a string of Roman symbols. One has to learn the symbol-sound
> correpondences
> and then identify the pronunciation with ones ear vocabulary.



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dshep@... writes in corrected keyboard Shavian:

Shavian unigrafic [schwa-a] F=/aI/


nOih uHDz iz wizdam;
nOih Ha self iz enlFtanmant.
mAstDih uHDz rakwFrz fOrs;
mAstDih ta self nIdz strehT.

ENgliS unigrafic [schwa-a, q reassigned]
This is a candidate for ASCII keyboard assignments for any IPA compatible phonemic writing system. It is supposed to be an improvement for both keyboard Shavian and
keyboard Unifon.

nOiN uDarz iz wizdam
nOiN Da self iz inlYtanment
mqsteriN uDarz rEkwYrz fors:
mqsteriN Da self nEdz strenT

Unifon unigrafic [uppercase dot marker] [schwa-c]

.nOiN uDcrz iz wizdcm
.nOiN Da self iz inlItcnmcnt
.mastcriN uDcrz rikwIrz [rEkwIrz] fOrs;
.mastcriN Dc self nEdz streNT.

Spanglish digrafic + 12 exception rules
The limitations of digraphic solutions need to be discussed.
Spanglish is a transitional writing system that is supposed to devolve into tradspel.
Spanglish is as phonemic as Spanish [about 85%] compared to tradspel [7%]
and has highly predictable spelling if you memorize the 12 exception rules.

Nóing utherz iz wizdam
Nóing ða [the] self iz enlaitanment
Mastering utherz rekwairz fors:
Mastering the self niedz strength

For details go to www.foolswisdom.com/~sbett <http://www.foolswisdom.com/~sbett>


NI NM nOz NI NAz enuf iz ric.
persaverans iz a sFn ov wilpQr
NI NM stEz Nwer NI is endUrz.
ta dF but not ta periS iz ta
bI atDnali presant.

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