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internashunal fonetik english: áéíóú=long vowelz (or AEIOU)
dígrafs: ah, az in on / au, in august / ch, in church / oo, in ooze /
ou, in out / oi, in oil / sh, in shore / th, in they / zh in azure
singulz: t =to e =the v =of n =and
==================================
steve:
veri interesting; thank U.
iz shavian e sAm az SA? wot iz shaw 2?

I tIp ghoti everi dA n its geting mor automatik. I am Uzing it t transkrIb pAperz 107 throo 112 from the Urantia Book (64 pAjez @ about 650 wordz per pAj) for mI websIt.

I agrE that Unifon iz Ezier t kEbord, but I think ghoti iz a bUtiful tIp fAs, n v kors, far Ezier n faster t rIt with a pen.

I aprEshiAt Ur kEping me posted on anithing n everithing pertAning t fonetik english.

with U in kOoperativ konsosiashun, kirk

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Bett <mailto:stbett@...>
To: shavian@... <mailto:shavian@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:33 PM
Subject: [shavian] Shavian and IPA phonemes

The page on the origin of the Shaw alphabet will probably be of interest. The first full articulation of the project appeared in the preface to a 1941 book http://victorian.fortunecity.com/vangogh/555/Spell/shaw-pref.html <http://victorian.fortunecity.com/vangogh/555/Spell/shaw-pref.html>

Alternate Notations for IPA phonemes
TWS=traditional writing system, SA=Shaw Alphabet
Starting with the 13 simple or uncombined vowels, the keywords are
note: E and O are sometimes considered to be diphthongs ei/ou
TWS eel ill ape edge at calm cup ago pot call oak hook hoop
SA Il il Ep ej At kym kup agO pot kYl Ok hUk hMp
Eng iil il eip ej aet kaam kap agou pot kool ouk huk huup
Uni El il Ap ej at kxm kup ugO pot kxl Ok hCk hUp
SS iel ill eip edj aet caam cupp ago pott col owk hwk huup
Ten of the keyboard locations are easy to remember, 3 are not. Shavian arbitrarily assigns Y, y and M to awe, ah, and ooze. I taught the ox would be spelled < F tYt Ha yks >
Compare this to [Uni] < I txt Du xks > and [Englik] < ai toot dhx oks >

Unifon merges the awe and ah phonemes and assigns x. Unifon could easily assign x and X to discriminate the two sounds.

Unifon is much easier to keep straight than keyboard Shavian. El, Ap, Ok, hCk, hUp can be deciphered without a key when one is told that the lazy U [C] represents the u sound in pull and the rest of the upper case letters are all long vowels.

On the next line, 13 combined vowels or diphthongs are listed
All of these phonograms are difficult to remember. The problem is compounded by assigning a unique keyboard letter for compound or ligatured characters. aart becomes Rt, or becomes P, er becomes x, AUr becomes Qr.
The system would be easier to learn if this were not done. The ligatures could be added later with a conversion program for commercial printing.
tradition rower jury other herder ear air art or tour tire our
shavian rOD JVrI aHD hXdD C x Rt P tUr tFr Qr
shaw 2
rOa
JjUrI
aHa
hXda
ia-ir
ea-er
yrt
Yr
tUa
taia
AUa
englik roua jyurii adhxr hxxdx
ia-ir ea-er aart or tur tair aur
unifon rOcr jyCrI uDcr hcrdcr Er Ar xrt Or tCr tIr qr
saxon rower jyury ather hurrder ir eir aart or tur tair aur
All of these paired associates are difficult to remember. hXdx
error airer herder hXdD

TWS you ice out cow oil her hair caustic brush measure
shavian V Fs Qt kQ ql hX hx kYstik braS meZD
shaw 2
jM
ais
AUt
kAU
oil
ha?
her?
"
"
mezar
englik yuu ais aut kau oil hxxr her
kaustik brash mezxr
unifon Y Is qt kq Ql hcr her kxstik bruS meZcr
saxon yu ais aut cau oil her heir costic brussh meazher

Does it make sense to learn keyboard locations for ligatures?
Learning an extra set of paired associates doubles the effort.
If Shavian were a code that one used every day, it would be OK.
But a code used once a month should not be this complicated.

By comparison, Unifon is a breeze: ace is As, ease is Ez. ice is Is, Ot is oat, and ooze is Uz. [ Shavian Es, Iz, Fs, Ot, Mz]. Unfortunately, Unifon has its unnecessary combinations as well. Y is you, qt is out [AUt], Ql is oil, herder is hcdc or hcrdcr [Shavian hXda/hXdD].

Shavian has no way to distinguish British non-rhortic speech and American rhortic speech. hXda or hXdD is as close as we can get. Unifon has no good way to distingish the first and second syllable in herder.

more www.unifon.org/shaw-alfa.html <http://www.unifon.org/shaw-alfa.html>

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Phillip,

OX was probably a poor choice for a key word.

what about calm as kym?

I was trying to contrast awe with ah.

I think the o represents the British o which is a short awe.

Regarding your second comment.

A system that would not distinguish British and GA could be
an advantage. I just found it to be curious.

Regards,

Steve



-- In shavian@y..., Philip Newton <philip.newton@d...> wrote:
> I taught the ox would be spelled < F tYt Ha yks >
>
> Er, I would spell ox as "oks", not "yks" (with the "short o" sound).
>
>
> Is it desirable to distinguish that at all? I thought one of the
points was
> to be able to use the same spelling (roughly) for British and
American
> speech,


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Steve Bett wrote:
> OX was probably a poor choice for a key word.
>
> what about calm as kym?

As far as I am concerned, yes. I pronounce calm as "kym" (roughly, "cahm").

> I was trying to contrast awe with ah.
>
> I think the o represents the British o which is a short awe.

Yes, pretty much.

Cheers,
Philip
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Dear friends,
How do I get off this list?? I once unsubscribed, and now I'm getting
more e-mails about English phonetics. Aaargh!! Please remove me from this
list, OK?
Fr. Daniel Szczurek, PhD, ThD, MD
Carpathian Eastern Orthodox Christian Church in America

----------
>From: Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>
>To: "'shavian@...'" <shavian@...>
>Subject: Re: [shavian] Re: Shavian and IPA phonemes
>Date: Apr Wed, 2001, 01:13
>

> Steve Bett wrote:
>> OX was probably a poor choice for a key word.
>>
>> what about calm as kym?
>
> As far as I am concerned, yes. I pronounce calm as "kym" (roughly, "cahm").
>
>> I was trying to contrast awe with ah.
>>
>> I think the o represents the British o which is a short awe.
>
> Yes, pretty much.
>
> Cheers,
> Philip
> --
> Philip Newton <Philip.Newton@...>
> All opinions are my own, not my employer's.
> If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
>
>
>
>
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I agree with you, we've heard this all before. It's a shame that no one
seems to want to post IN Shavian rather than ABOUT it.

Hugh

----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel G. Szczurek <twojbrat@...>
To: <shavian@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 3:32 AM
Subject: Re: [shavian] Re: Shavian and IPA phonemes


> Dear friends,
> How do I get off this list?? I once unsubscribed, and now I'm getting
> more e-mails about English phonetics. Aaargh!! Please remove me from this
> list, OK?
> Fr. Daniel Szczurek, PhD, ThD, MD
> Carpathian Eastern Orthodox Christian Church in America
>
> ----------
> >From: Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>
> >To: "'shavian@...'" <shavian@...>
> >Subject: Re: [shavian] Re: Shavian and IPA phonemes
> >Date: Apr Wed, 2001, 01:13
> >
>
> > Steve Bett wrote:
> >> OX was probably a poor choice for a key word.
> >>
> >> what about calm as kym?
> >
> > As far as I am concerned, yes. I pronounce calm as "kym" (roughly,
"cahm").
> >
> >> I was trying to contrast awe with ah.
> >>
> >> I think the o represents the British o which is a short awe.
> >
> > Yes, pretty much.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Philip
> > --
> > Philip Newton <Philip.Newton@...>
> > All opinions are my own, not my employer's.
> > If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
> >
> >
> >
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I agree with you, we've heard this all before. It's a shame that no one
seems to want to post IN Shavian rather than ABOUT it.

Hugh

----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel G. Szczurek <twojbrat@...>
To: <shavian@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 3:32 AM
Subject: Re: [shavian] Re: Shavian and IPA phonemes


> Dear friends,
> How do I get off this list?? I once unsubscribed, and now I'm getting
> more e-mails about English phonetics. Aaargh!! Please remove me from this
> list, OK?
> Fr. Daniel Szczurek, PhD, ThD, MD
> Carpathian Eastern Orthodox Christian Church in America
>
> ----------
> >From: Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>
> >To: "'shavian@...'" <shavian@...>
> >Subject: Re: [shavian] Re: Shavian and IPA phonemes
> >Date: Apr Wed, 2001, 01:13
> >
>
> > Steve Bett wrote:
> >> OX was probably a poor choice for a key word.
> >>
> >> what about calm as kym?
> >
> > As far as I am concerned, yes. I pronounce calm as "kym" (roughly,
"cahm").
> >
> >> I was trying to contrast awe with ah.
> >>
> >> I think the o represents the British o which is a short awe.
> >
> > Yes, pretty much.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Philip
> > --
> > Philip Newton <Philip.Newton@...>
> > All opinions are my own, not my employer's.
> > If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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>
>


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To: VonBrown23@... <mailto:VonBrown23@...> ; Victor Henri Napoleon <mailto:zealotrpg@...> ; support@... <mailto:support@...> ; Steve Chrisomalis <mailto:forthright@...> ; Steve Chrisomalis <mailto:schris1@...> ; Solanna <mailto:angela_solanna@...> ; shavian@... <mailto:shavian@...> ; Rosa Colaianni <mailto:rosa@...> ; Peter P Toth <mailto:ptoth@...> ; Eytan Bernstein <mailto:manablast@...> ; Daphné Brunelle <mailto:dbrune4@...> ; Daniel P Morris <mailto:dpmorris@...> ; Dan Gambacorta <mailto:SkyDan33@...> ; curtana@... <mailto:curtana@...> ; Craig Lawson <mailto:clawso1@...> ; Christopher Huang <mailto:christopher.huang@...> ; Chris Lang <mailto:clang1@...> ; Chris Bonet <mailto:goisles22@...> ; Bob Parnes <mailto:bparnes@...> ; andrea rodney <mailto:andirodney@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 6:28 PM
Subject: [shavian]


On February 12, 1993 a small boy who was to turn three







on March was taken from a shopping centre in Liverpool
by two 10 year old boys.
Jamie Bulger walked away from his mother for only
a second and Jon Venables took his hand and led him
out of the mall with his friend Robert Thompson.
They took Jamie on a walk for over 2 and a half miles,
along the way stopping every now and again to torture
the poor little boy who was crying constantly for his
mummy. Finally they stopped at a railway track where
they brutally kicked him and threw stones at him and
rubbed paint in his eyes and pushed batteries up his
anus. They then left his beaten small body on the
tracks so a train could run him over to hide the
mess they had created. These two boys, even being boys
understood what they did was wrong, hence trying to
make it look like an accident. This week Lady Justice
Butler-Sloss has awarded the two boys anonymity for
the rest of their lives when they leave custody with
new identities.
We cannot let this happen. They will also leave early
this year only serving just over half of their
sentence. One paper even stated that Robert may go on
to University. They are getting away with their crime.
They need to pay, and we have to do something to make
them pay for their horrific crime. They took Jamie's
life violently away, and in return they get a new
life. Please add your name and location to the list
and
forward to friends and family. Please copy this email
instead of forwarding so we do not get at the
beginning of sentences. If you are the 200th person to
sign please forward this email to ser.cs@... <mailto:ser.cs@...>
mailto:cust.ser.cs@... attentioning it to
Lady Justice Butler-Sloss, Then start the list over
again and sent to your friends and family. The
Love-Bug virus took less that 72 hours to reach the
world. I hope this one does too. We need to protect
our family and friends from creatures like Robert and
Jon. One day they may be living next to you and your
small
children without your knowledge. If Robert and Jon
could be so evil at 10, imagine what they could do as
adults?
1. Angelia Hemmingway, Hamilton, New Zealand
2. Jolene Rowe, Auckland, NZ
3. Evan Graham, Auckland, NZ
4. Laura Cole, Auckland, NZ
5.Grant Cole, Auckland, NZ
6. Leanne Whyte,Auckland,NZ
7. Jackie Deacon Auckland NZ
8. Aimee Walmsley,Auckland, New Zealand
9. Natasha Barker, Auckland, New Zealand
10. Debra Aldred, Newcastle, NSW, Australia
11. Robin Williamson Perth Australia
12. Amanda Gryg, Perth, Australia
13. Charlii W, NSW, Australia
14. Karen C., Sydney Australia
15. Allan H, Sydney Australia
16. Jessica H Sydney Australia
17. Michelle M, Sydney Australia
18. Chris M, Sydney Australia
19. Lachlan M, Sydney Australia
20. Debra Williams, Sydney Australia
21. Elizabeth Williams, Sydney Australia
22. Anthony Williams, Sydney Australia
23.Danielle Dennis, Sydney Australia
24. Corinne Bruce, Sydney Australia
25. Lea Brennan, Sydney Australia
26. Aaron Bryan, Sydney Australia
27. Louise Debono, SYDNEY AUSTRALIA
28. Leanne Denford, Sydney Aust
29. Danny D, Sydney Australia
30. Nicky Hall, Sydney, Australia
31. Karen Thomas, London
32. Emma Harrow, London
33. Thu Lam, London
34. Danny James, London
35. Victoria James, London
36. Clare Matthews, London
37. Helen Smith, Surrey, UK
38. Sarah Flavin, Surrey, UK
39 Louise Tyrer, Weybridge, UK
40 Natalie Harsant, Hampshire, UK
41 Sally Morrison. Berkshire, UK
42.Lisa Crawshaw .Berkshire, UK
43. Joan Knight. Berkshire, UK
44. Gill Gale, Berkshire, UK
45. David Anderson, Hampshire, UK
46. Jackie Graddage, Berkshire UK
47. Paul Kendall, Berkshire UK
48. Barry Tattersall, Berkshire UK
49. Jason Soley, Berkshire, UK
50.Emma Cross,BErkshire, UK
51. Lee Goddard, Berkshire,UK
61. Dominic Smith, Berkshire, UK
62 Lee Newton, Berkshire, UK
63 Emma Price, Berkshire, UK
64. Bonnie Parker, Surrey, UK
65. Glen Ellis, Norwich, UK
66.Cynthia Pawley.UK
67. Diane Nauschutz. South Africa.
68. Logan Govender.South Africa
69. Charmaine Govender. South Africa
70. Steven Govender. South Africa
71. Gaily James, JHB South Africa
72. Deon James, JHB South Africa>
73. Charlene Swart, JHB, South Africa
74. Chrislaine Smit, JHB, South Africa
75. Carol Nowlan, Gauteng, South Africa
76. Alan Nowlan, Gauteng, South Africa
77. Russell Taylor, Johannesburg, South Africa
78. Anne Taylor, Johannesburg, South Africa
79. Cheryl Barclay, /gaborone, Botswana
80. Lea Roodt, Gaborone, Botswana
81 Frances Combs, Gaborone, Botswana
82. Barry Baxter, Gaborone, Botswana
83. Alan Liddle, Gaborone Botswana
84. Sue Liddle, Gaborone Botswana
85. Volker Willschrey, Dillingen, Germany
86. Batbayar D. Borjigin, Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia
87. Robert Word, Ansbach, Germany
88. Elizabeth L. Nelms, Atlanta, Georgia
89. Stephen L. Nelms, Atlanta, Georgia
90. Laura Ruiz, Pacoima, California
91. Lennette Casteneda, Camp Pendleton, California
92. Rick Ibarra,Camp Pendleton,CALIFORNIA, USA
93. Ryan Vieu, Camp Pendleton CA, Marine Corps
94. Tina Vieu, Big Rapids MI, USA
95. Melanie Stephens, Redford, MI USA
96. Melody Budensiek, Lake City,MN USA
97. Jody Schlussler, WI, USA
98. Geoffrey Hearn,Sydney,Australia
99. Maryjane Hearn,Sydney,Australia
100. Alicia Hearn,Sydney,Australia
101. Sarah Hearn,Sydney,Australia
102. Emma Hearn,Sydney,Australia
103. Timothy Hearn,Sydney,Australia
104. Desari Tregea, Sydney, Australia
105. Clairice Tregea, Sydney, Australia
106. Jonathon Tregea, Sydney, Australia
107. Bek Ansell, Adelaide, Australia
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----- Original Message -----
From: Mitchell Morris <mailto:Narmical@Phantommx.com>
To: VonBrown23@... <mailto:VonBrown23@...> ; Victor Henri Napoleon <mailto:zealotrpg@...> ; support@... <mailto:support@...> ; Steve Chrisomalis <mailto:forthright@...> ; Steve Chrisomalis <mailto:schris1@...> ; Solanna <mailto:angela_solanna@...> ; shavian@... <mailto:shavian@...> ; Rosa Colaianni <mailto:rosa@...> ; Peter P Toth <mailto:ptoth@...> ; Eytan Bernstein <mailto:manablast@...> ; Daphné Brunelle <mailto:dbrune4@...> ; Daniel P Morris <mailto:dpmorris@...> ; Dan Gambacorta <mailto:SkyDan33@...> ; curtana@... <mailto:curtana@...> ; Craig Lawson <mailto:clawso1@...> ; Christopher Huang <mailto:christopher.huang@...> ; Chris Lang <mailto:clang1@...> ; Chris Bonet <mailto:goisles22@...> ; Bob Parnes <mailto:bparnes@...> ; andrea rodney <mailto:andirodney@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 6:28 PM
Subject: [shavian]


On February 12, 1993 a small boy who was to turn three







on March was taken from a shopping centre in Liverpool
by two 10 year old boys.
Jamie Bulger walked away from his mother for only
a second and Jon Venables took his hand and led him
out of the mall with his friend Robert Thompson.
They took Jamie on a walk for over 2 and a half miles,
along the way stopping every now and again to torture
the poor little boy who was crying constantly for his
mummy. Finally they stopped at a railway track where
they brutally kicked him and threw stones at him and
rubbed paint in his eyes and pushed batteries up his
anus. They then left his beaten small body on the
tracks so a train could run him over to hide the
mess they had created. These two boys, even being boys
understood what they did was wrong, hence trying to
make it look like an accident. This week Lady Justice
Butler-Sloss has awarded the two boys anonymity for
the rest of their lives when they leave custody with
new identities.
We cannot let this happen. They will also leave early
this year only serving just over half of their
sentence. One paper even stated that Robert may go on
to University. They are getting away with their crime.
They need to pay, and we have to do something to make
them pay for their horrific crime. They took Jamie's
life violently away, and in return they get a new
life. Please add your name and location to the list
and
forward to friends and family. Please copy this email
instead of forwarding so we do not get at the
beginning of sentences. If you are the 200th person to
sign please forward this email to ser.cs@... <mailto:ser.cs@...>
mailto:cust.ser.cs@... attentioning it to
Lady Justice Butler-Sloss, Then start the list over
again and sent to your friends and family. The
Love-Bug virus took less that 72 hours to reach the
world. I hope this one does too. We need to protect
our family and friends from creatures like Robert and
Jon. One day they may be living next to you and your
small
children without your knowledge. If Robert and Jon
could be so evil at 10, imagine what they could do as
adults?
1. Angelia Hemmingway, Hamilton, New Zealand
2. Jolene Rowe, Auckland, NZ
3. Evan Graham, Auckland, NZ
4. Laura Cole, Auckland, NZ
5.Grant Cole, Auckland, NZ
6. Leanne Whyte,Auckland,NZ
7. Jackie Deacon Auckland NZ
8. Aimee Walmsley,Auckland, New Zealand
9. Natasha Barker, Auckland, New Zealand
10. Debra Aldred, Newcastle, NSW, Australia
11. Robin Williamson Perth Australia
12. Amanda Gryg, Perth, Australia
13. Charlii W, NSW, Australia
14. Karen C., Sydney Australia
15. Allan H, Sydney Australia
16. Jessica H Sydney Australia
17. Michelle M, Sydney Australia
18. Chris M, Sydney Australia
19. Lachlan M, Sydney Australia
20. Debra Williams, Sydney Australia
21. Elizabeth Williams, Sydney Australia
22. Anthony Williams, Sydney Australia
23.Danielle Dennis, Sydney Australia
24. Corinne Bruce, Sydney Australia
25. Lea Brennan, Sydney Australia
26. Aaron Bryan, Sydney Australia
27. Louise Debono, SYDNEY AUSTRALIA
28. Leanne Denford, Sydney Aust
29. Danny D, Sydney Australia
30. Nicky Hall, Sydney, Australia
31. Karen Thomas, London
32. Emma Harrow, London
33. Thu Lam, London
34. Danny James, London
35. Victoria James, London
36. Clare Matthews, London
37. Helen Smith, Surrey, UK
38. Sarah Flavin, Surrey, UK
39 Louise Tyrer, Weybridge, UK
40 Natalie Harsant, Hampshire, UK
41 Sally Morrison. Berkshire, UK
42.Lisa Crawshaw .Berkshire, UK
43. Joan Knight. Berkshire, UK
44. Gill Gale, Berkshire, UK
45. David Anderson, Hampshire, UK
46. Jackie Graddage, Berkshire UK
47. Paul Kendall, Berkshire UK
48. Barry Tattersall, Berkshire UK
49. Jason Soley, Berkshire, UK
50.Emma Cross,BErkshire, UK
51. Lee Goddard, Berkshire,UK
61. Dominic Smith, Berkshire, UK
62 Lee Newton, Berkshire, UK
63 Emma Price, Berkshire, UK
64. Bonnie Parker, Surrey, UK
65. Glen Ellis, Norwich, UK
66.Cynthia Pawley.UK
67. Diane Nauschutz. South Africa.
68. Logan Govender.South Africa
69. Charmaine Govender. South Africa
70. Steven Govender. South Africa
71. Gaily James, JHB South Africa
72. Deon James, JHB South Africa>
73. Charlene Swart, JHB, South Africa
74. Chrislaine Smit, JHB, South Africa
75. Carol Nowlan, Gauteng, South Africa
76. Alan Nowlan, Gauteng, South Africa
77. Russell Taylor, Johannesburg, South Africa
78. Anne Taylor, Johannesburg, South Africa
79. Cheryl Barclay, /gaborone, Botswana
80. Lea Roodt, Gaborone, Botswana
81 Frances Combs, Gaborone, Botswana
82. Barry Baxter, Gaborone, Botswana
83. Alan Liddle, Gaborone Botswana
84. Sue Liddle, Gaborone Botswana
85. Volker Willschrey, Dillingen, Germany
86. Batbayar D. Borjigin, Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia
87. Robert Word, Ansbach, Germany
88. Elizabeth L. Nelms, Atlanta, Georgia
89. Stephen L. Nelms, Atlanta, Georgia
90. Laura Ruiz, Pacoima, California
91. Lennette Casteneda, Camp Pendleton, California
92. Rick Ibarra,Camp Pendleton,CALIFORNIA, USA
93. Ryan Vieu, Camp Pendleton CA, Marine Corps
94. Tina Vieu, Big Rapids MI, USA
95. Melanie Stephens, Redford, MI USA
96. Melody Budensiek, Lake City,MN USA
97. Jody Schlussler, WI, USA
98. Geoffrey Hearn,Sydney,Australia
99. Maryjane Hearn,Sydney,Australia
100. Alicia Hearn,Sydney,Australia
101. Sarah Hearn,Sydney,Australia
102. Emma Hearn,Sydney,Australia
103. Timothy Hearn,Sydney,Australia
104. Desari Tregea, Sydney, Australia
105. Clairice Tregea, Sydney, Australia
106. Jonathon Tregea, Sydney, Australia
107. Bek Ansell, Adelaide, Australia
108. Aleksandra Pavoni, Warsaw, Poland
109. William Ernest , Bakersfield California USA
110. Mitchell Morris, Montreal, Qubec, Canada
111 Richard Cutler, Johannesburg, South Africa.

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>
> From: "Hugh Birkenhead" <mixsynth@...>
>Subject: Re: Re: Shavian and IPA phonemes
>
>I agree with you, we've heard this all before. It's a shame that no one
>seems to want to post IN Shavian rather than ABOUT it.

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