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Firefox 5.0 on Fedora GNU/Linux 15. Which configuration do you use?

--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, Michael Everson <everson@...> wrote:
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> On 19 Jul 2011, at 05:31, tim_rice09 wrote:
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> > Sadly, as far as I remember, Yahoo's system mangles Unicode Shavian.
> >
> > 𐑲 𐑣𐑴𐑐 𐑲 𐑡𐑳𐑕𐑑 𐑐𐑮𐑵𐑝𐑛 𐑥𐑲𐑕𐑧𐑤𐑓 𐑮𐑪𐑙.
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> That seems browser-dependent. What OS, version, and browser or e-mail client are you using?
> I received the following from the list two days ago, it's got Unicode characters in it:
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> On 17 Jul 2011, at 00:40, Jean-François Colson wrote:
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> > I’m a little puzzled by the title on your cover. I read : â€Å"·𐑨𐑤𐑦𐑕’𐑩𐑟 𐑩𐑛𐑝𐑧𐑯𐑑𐑿𐑮𐑟 𐑦𐑯 𐑢𐑲𐑯𐑛𐑮𐑤𐑨𐑯𐑛”.
> > Why did you write â€Å"𐑩𐑛𐑝𐑧𐑯𐑑𐑿𐑮𐑟”? â€Å"𐑿” is pronounced /juː/ as in â€Å"you”. Do you really pronounce it /É™dˈvÉ›ntjuːɹz/? Shouldn’t it be /É™dˈvÉ›ntjÉšz/, i.e. â€Å"𐑩𐑛𐑝𐑧𐑯𐑑𐑘𐑼𐑟”? I don’t understand why you used the ice diphtong (𐑲) in â€Å"𐑢𐑲𐑯𐑛𐑮𐑤𐑨𐑯𐑛”. Also, couldn’t you use the â€Å"𐑼” ligature instead
> > of the single â€Å"𐑮” consonant?
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> Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/
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On 19 Jul 2011, at 21:52, tim_rice09 wrote:

> Firefox 5.0 on Fedora GNU/Linux 15. Which configuration do you use?

I use Safari 5.0.5 on Mac OS 10.6.8.

I think your settings are screwed up. There is no reason you should not be able to send and receive UTF-8 mail properly. Firefox is certainly Unicode-capable. I shouldn't think it would have trouble with Plane 1 characters.

Anyway it's not Yahoogroups that's at fault, since I can send and receive Unicoded Shavian. I hope it's not too hard for you to check your configuration.

Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/

Indeed, Shavian is encoded in Unicode, but to be honest, I'm not sure how to
make use of it. How do I type Unicode Shavian characters?
On 18 Jul 2011 10:55, "Michael Everson" <everson@...> wrote:

I just ordered this book in hardcover. I was wondering if it has an interesting story.

dibbs629 wrote:
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> I just ordered this book in hardcover. I was wondering if it has an
> interesting story.

Not really. It's the old children's fable of the lion with a thorn in
his paw. (Man finds lion in woods with thorn in his paw. He
takes it out. Lion is grateful. Years later, man is thrown to the
lion, but it turns out to be the same lion, who recognizes the
man and refuses to harm him.)

Oh well. It will be good practice and a neat book to have in my collection.

--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, phil@... wrote:
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> dibbs629 wrote:
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> > I just ordered this book in hardcover. I was wondering if it has an
> > interesting story.
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> Not really. It's the old children's fable of the lion with a thorn in
> his paw. (Man finds lion in woods with thorn in his paw. He
> takes it out. Lion is grateful. Years later, man is thrown to the
> lion, but it turns out to be the same lion, who recognizes the
> man and refuses to harm him.)
>

On 20 Jul 2011, at 00:46, Hugh Birkenhead wrote:

> Indeed, Shavian is encoded in Unicode, but to be honest, I'm not sure how to make use of it. How do I type Unicode Shavian characters?

You have to have a software keyboard driver to do it. There are different ways of making these for different platforms. I will be happy to make one for the Mac OS and upload it. Is there as standard layout mapping?

Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 14:39, Michael Everson <everson@...> wrote:
> Is there as standard layout mapping?

My impression is that the de facto keyboard standard is the one
derived from Ross DeMeyere's Shavian fonts, which mapped the letters
to ASCII (so, for example, capital "F" for "𐑲"). I've seen both "G"
and "/" used for the namer dot, so it might be worth considering
mapping it to both those positions, but other than that, I think the
layout is pretty straightforward.

Do you know/can you easily find out that mapping or would you like a table?

Cheers,
Philip
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Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 14:46, Philip Newton <philip.newton@gmail.com> wrote:
> Do you know/can you easily find out that mapping or would you like a table?

Anyway, here's one:

𐑐 p 𐑑 t 𐑒 k 𐑓 f 𐑔 T 𐑕 s 𐑖 S 𐑗 c 𐑘 j 𐑙 N 𐑚 b 𐑛 d 𐑜 g 𐑝 v 𐑞 H 𐑟 z
𐑠 Z 𐑡 J 𐑢 w 𐑣 h 𐑤 l 𐑥 m 𐑦 i 𐑧 e 𐑨 A 𐑩 a 𐑪 o 𐑫 U 𐑬 Q 𐑭 y 𐑮 r 𐑯 n
𐑰 I 𐑱 E 𐑲 F 𐑳 u 𐑴 O 𐑵 M 𐑶 q 𐑷 Y 𐑸 R 𐑹 P 𐑺 X 𐑻 x 𐑼 D 𐑽 C 𐑾 W 𐑿 V

plus namer dot (mapped to middle dot · IIRC) on both G and /.

Most of the mappings are reasonably mnemonic, in my opinion.

Cheers,
Philip
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Philip Newton <philip.newton@gmail.com>

Which operating system do you use? there are keyboard layouts available for Windows, Mac and all the other *nix platforms.

--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, Hugh Birkenhead <mixsynth@...> wrote:
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> Indeed, Shavian is encoded in Unicode, but to be honest, I'm not sure how to
> make use of it. How do I type Unicode Shavian characters?
> On 18 Jul 2011 10:55, "Michael Everson" <everson@...> wrote:
>