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I'm sorry--all I can see is squares with numbers. If you want to write to
me by mail, let's arrange that.


On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Zenard Elenthalyn dus1cy0n@...
[shawalphabet] <shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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> Hello!
> 𐑖𐑨𐑝𐑨 𐑨𐑤𐑓𐑨𐑚𐑧𐑑𐑩 𐑦𐑵𐑑𐑧𐑮𐑧𐑕𐑨𐑕 𐑫𐑦𐑵!
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> On 16-03-2015 15:12, ejfelker@... [shawalphabet] wrote:
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> Hello to All!
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> I'm looking for people who enjoy the Shavian alphabet and who want to use
> it in Esperanto. The connection between the written and spoken forms are
> pleasingly close in Esperanto, and the Shavian alphabet is worth
> saving--not only in a museum or book, but in living, interpersonal
> exchange. If any of this appeals to you, please contact me. I especially
> enjoy using the alphabet in hand-written form. Vivu la sxava alfabeto!
>
> Gxis la reskribo,
> Erik Felker
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Maybe you saw only squares because you don't have the unicode fonts
for the Shavian alphabet, which I use to write Shavian...
I was even making a program for transliterating "roman" Esperanto to
the Shavian alphabet, but had not invested time on it lately.
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>>>>> "Z" == Zenard Elenthalyn writes:

Z> Maybe you saw only squares because you don't have the unicode
Z> fonts for the Shavian alphabet, which I use to write
Z> Shavian... I was even making a program for transliterating
Z> "roman" Esperanto to the Shavian alphabet, but had not
Z> invested time on it lately.

One could use
http://pok.heliohost.org/eo/tools/Sxava/sxava.sed
( s/p/\𐑐/ig etc )
and
http://pok.heliohost.org/eo/tools/Sxava/sxava8.sed
( s/p/𐑐/ig etc).

See http://pok.heliohost.org/eo/tools/Sxava/sxava.html#sec27
(in Esperanto).

--
Sergei

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𐑕𐑨𐑤𐑪𐑑𐑩𐑵! 𐑑𐑦𐑪𐑵 𐑮𐑧𐑐𐑨𐑡𐑩𐑢 𐑧𐑕𐑑𐑨𐑕 𐑑𐑮𐑩 𐑚𐑩𐑵𐑨!
𐑛𐑨𐑵𐑒𐑩𐑵! 𐑫𐑦 𐑐𐑧𐑵𐑕𐑨𐑕, 𐑒𐑧 𐑝𐑦 𐑵𐑪𐑵 𐑐𐑩𐑝𐑪𐑕 𐑤𐑧𐑜𐑦
𐑑𐑦𐑩𐑵, 𐑒𐑦𐑩𐑵 𐑫𐑦 𐑕𐑒𐑮𐑦𐑚𐑨𐑕. 𐑫𐑦𐑨 𐑵𐑩𐑫𐑩 𐑧𐑕𐑑𐑨𐑕 Rony
Reis, 𐑫𐑦 𐑤𐑩𐑡𐑨𐑕 𐑧𐑵 𐑚𐑮𐑨𐑟𐑦𐑤𐑩. 𐑫𐑦 𐑐𐑧𐑵𐑕𐑨𐑕 𐑒𐑧
𐑤𐑨𐑖𐑨𐑝𐑨 𐑨𐑤𐑓𐑨𐑚𐑧𐑑𐑩 𐑧𐑕𐑑𐑨𐑕 𐑐𐑤𐑦 𐑵𐑧𐑘𐑑𐑮𐑨𐑤𐑨 𐑒𐑨𐑢
𐑓𐑨𐑔𐑦𐑤𐑨 𐑩𐑤 𐑤𐑨 𐑮𐑩𐑫𐑨𐑵𐑨, 𐑒𐑨𐑢 𐑑𐑦𐑩 𐑫𐑩𐑢𐑩𐑕𐑨𐑕.

On 18-03-2015 16:26, Sergei Pokrovsky sergio.pokrovskij@...
[shawalphabet] wrote:
>>>>>> "Z" == Zenard Elenthalyn writes:
>
> Z> Maybe you saw only squares because you don't have the unicode
> Z> fonts for the Shavian alphabet, which I use to write
> Z> Shavian... I was even making a program for transliterating
> Z> "roman" Esperanto to the Shavian alphabet, but had not
> Z> invested time on it lately.
>
> One could use
> http://pok.heliohost.org/eo/tools/Sxava/sxava.sed
> ( s/p/\𐑐/ig etc )
> and
> http://pok.heliohost.org/eo/tools/Sxava/sxava8.sed
> ( s/p/𐑐/ig etc).
>
> See http://pok.heliohost.org/eo/tools/Sxava/sxava.html#sec27
> (in Esperanto).
>
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On 18 Mar 2015, at 00:36, Erik Felker ejfelker@... [shawalphabet] <shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

> I'm sorry--all I can see is squares with numbers. If you want to write to me by mail, let's arrange that.

Install a font.

Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/

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> On Mar 19, 2015, at 6:05 PM, Michael Everson everson@... [shawalphabet] <shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> On 18 Mar 2015, at 00:36, Erik Felker ejfelker@... [shawalphabet] <shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>> I'm sorry--all I can see is squares with numbers. If you want to write to me by mail, let's arrange that.
>
> Install a font.
>
> Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/

I second this. Spending a quarter of an hour getting your computer set up to read Shavian properly will be a better use of your time than making marks on processed sheets of dead trees turned into pulp.

Noto Sans has Shavian letters in it. You should download and install it. Since you're almost certainly on Windows, this should be a simple matter of downloading the zip file, double-clicking on it to get to the font file inside, and then clicking on "Install" in the font-preview dialog. Restart your browser and/or mail client and/or computer and then have a second look at the Shavian e-mails. Let us know how it goes.

https://www.google.com/get/noto/pkgs/NotoSansShavian-unhinted.zip

and then the process of learning which keyboard key represents which symbol
in Shavian
and training the brain to quickly find those keys.

There's more to it thank just 15 mins to download and install a font.

So, I stay with the writing stick and the paper pulp.

Frank

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This does not look like Shavian ...
what did I do wrong ?

Guidance please ?

https://www.google.com/get/noto/pkgs/NotoSansShavian-unhinted.zip


​Regards, frank​

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> On Mar 22, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Frank Hermit tikiroo22@... [shawalphabet] <shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> <NotoSansShavian.jpg>
> ​
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> This does not look like Shavian ...
> what did I do wrong ?
>
> Guidance please ?
>
> https://www.google.com/get/noto/pkgs/NotoSansShavian-unhinted.zip

My hunch is that it has both Latin letters and Shavian letters…and Windows' font preview doesn't know enough to show the Shavian ones. Install it anyway (you may need to unzip the file to your desktop or your Downloads folder first).

> On Mar 22, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Frank Hermit tikiroo22@... [shawalphabet] <shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> and then the process of learning which keyboard key represents which symbol in Shavian
> and training the brain to quickly find those keys.
>
> There's more to it thank just 15 mins to download and install a font.
>
> So, I stay with the writing stick and the paper pulp.
>
> Frank

I was going to get to that. Taking pictures* of handwritten pages would still be less hassle than futzing around with stamps and the USPS.

Plus, if you have a font set up, you can receive correspondence from people who'd rather type.

* using a scanner, digital camera, or fancypants phone