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From: jvipond@...
Date: 2015-03-23 01:40:16 #
Subject: Re: [shawalphabet] Shavian alphabet for Esperanto
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You appear to be looking at the Basic Latin range. Shavian has its own range in Unicode:
Shavian โ Test for Unicode support in Web browsers http://alanwood.net/unicode/shavian.html
Shavian โ Test for Unicode support in Web browsers http://alanwood.net/unicode/shavian.html Test your Web browser and fonts for the ability to display the Unicode Shavian range of characters. Part of Alan Woodโs Unicode Resources.
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From: Zenard Elenthalyn <dus1cy0n@...>
Date: 2015-03-25 16:30:32 #
Subject: Re: [shawalphabet] Hey
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Did you received my mail? Could you read it?
On 18-03-2015 20:50, Zenard Elenthalyn dus1cy0n@... [shawalphabet]
wrote:
> ๐๐จ๐ค๐ช๐๐ฉ๐ต! ๐๐ฆ๐ช๐ต ๐ฎ๐ง๐๐จ๐ก๐ฉ๐ข ๐ง๐๐๐จ๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ฉ ๐๐ฉ๐ต๐จ!
> ๐๐จ๐ต๐๐ฉ๐ต! ๐ซ๐ฆ ๐๐ง๐ต๐๐จ๐, ๐๐ง ๐๐ฆ ๐ต๐ช๐ต ๐๐ฉ๐๐ช๐ ๐ค๐ง๐๐ฆ
> ๐๐ฆ๐ฉ๐ต, ๐๐ฆ๐ฉ๐ต ๐ซ๐ฆ ๐๐๐ฎ๐ฆ๐๐จ๐. ๐ซ๐ฆ๐จ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ซ๐ฉ ๐ง๐๐๐จ๐ Ron
y
> Reis, ๐ซ๐ฆ ๐ค๐ฉ๐ก๐จ๐ ๐ง๐ต ๐๐ฎ๐จ๐๐ฆ๐ค๐ฉ. ๐ซ๐ฆ ๐๐ง๐ต๐๐จ๐ ๐๐ง
> ๐ค๐จ๐๐จ๐๐จ ๐จ๐ค๐๐จ๐๐ง๐๐ฉ ๐ง๐๐๐จ๐ ๐๐ค๐ฆ ๐ต๐ง๐๐๐ฎ๐จ๐ค๐จ ๐๐จ๏ฟฝ
๏ฟฝ
> ๐๐จ๐๐ฆ๐ค๐จ ๐ฉ๐ค ๐ค๐จ ๐ฎ๐ฉ๐ซ๐จ๐ต๐จ, ๐๐จ๐ข ๐๐ฆ๐ฉ ๐ซ๐ฉ๐ข๐ฉ๐๐จ๐.
>
> On 18-03-2015 16:26, Sergei Pokrovsky sergio.pokrovskij@...
> [shawalphabet] wrote:
>>>>>>> "Z" == Zenard Elenthalyn writes:
>
>> Z> Maybe you saw only squares because you don't have the unicode
>> Z> fonts for the Shavian alphabet, which I use to write
>> Z> Shavian... I was even making a program for transliterating
>> Z> "roman" Esperanto to the Shavian alphabet, but had not
>> Z> invested time on it lately.
>
>> One could use
>> http://pok.heliohost.org/eo/tools/Sxava/sxava.sed
>> ( s/p/\๐/ig etc )
>> and
>> http://pok.heliohost.org/eo/tools/Sxava/sxava8.sed
>> ( s/p/๐/ig etc).
>
>> See http://pok.heliohost.org/eo/tools/Sxava/sxava.html#sec27
>> (in Esperanto).
>
>
From: Frank Hermit <tikiroo22@...>
Date: 2015-03-26 05:41:37 #
Subject: Re: [shawalphabet] Hey
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HI,
I have downloaded the font as in
https://www.google.com/get/noto/pkgs/NotoSansShavian-unhinted.zip
and installed it, and I see it among the fonts in Windows/fonts.
But,
I am afraid your boxes of uni-code remain boxes of unicode.
I looked at you links
>> One could use
>> http://pok.heliohost.org/eo/tools/Sxava/sxava.sed
But, I don't know what to do with them.
Your guidance please ?
Regards, Frank
Frank Summers tikiroo22@...
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On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:27 AM, Zenard Elenthalyn dus1cy0n@...
[shawalphabet] <shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> Did you received my mail? Could you read it?
>
> On 18-03-2015 20:50, Zenard Elenthalyn dus1cy0n@... [shawalphabet]
> wrote:
> > ๐๐จ๐ค๐ช๐๐ฉ๐ต! ๐๐ฆ๐ช๐ต ๐ฎ๐ง๐๐จ๐ก๐ฉ๐ข ๐ง๐๐๐จ๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ฉ ๐๐ฉ๐ต๐จ!
> > ๐๐จ๐ต๐๐ฉ๐ต! ๐ซ๐ฆ ๐๐ง๐ต๐๐จ๐, ๐๐ง ๐๐ฆ ๐ต๐ช๐ต ๐๐ฉ๐๐ช๐ ๐ค๐ง๐๐ฆ
> > ๐๐ฆ๐ฉ๐ต, ๐๐ฆ๐ฉ๐ต ๐ซ๐ฆ ๐๐๐ฎ๐ฆ๐๐จ๐. ๐ซ๐ฆ๐จ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ซ๐ฉ ๐ง๐๐๐จ๐ Ron
> y
> > Reis, ๐ซ๐ฆ ๐ค๐ฉ๐ก๐จ๐ ๐ง๐ต ๐๐ฎ๐จ๐๐ฆ๐ค๐ฉ. ๐ซ๐ฆ ๐๐ง๐ต๐๐จ๐ ๐๐ง
> > ๐ค๐จ๐๐จ๐๐จ ๐จ๐ค๐๐จ๐๐ง๐๐ฉ ๐ง๐๐๐จ๐ ๐๐ค๐ฆ ๐ต๐ง๐๐๐ฎ๐จ๐ค๐จ ๐๐จ๏ฟฝ
> ๏ฟฝ
> > ๐๐จ๐๐ฆ๐ค๐จ ๐ฉ๐ค ๐ค๐จ ๐ฎ๐ฉ๐ซ๐จ๐ต๐จ, ๐๐จ๐ข ๐๐ฆ๐ฉ ๐ซ๐ฉ๐ข๐ฉ๐๐จ๐.
> >
> > On 18-03-2015 16:26, Sergei Pokrovsky sergio.pokrovskij@...
> > [shawalphabet] wrote:
> >>>>>>> "Z" == Zenard Elenthalyn writes:
> >
> >> Z> Maybe you saw only squares because you don't have the unicode
> >> Z> fonts for the Shavian alphabet, which I use to write
> >> Z> Shavian... I was even making a program for transliterating
> >> Z> "roman" Esperanto to the Shavian alphabet, but had not
> >> Z> invested time on it lately.
> >
> >> One could use
> >> http://pok.heliohost.org/eo/tools/Sxava/sxava.sed
> >> ( s/p/\๐/ig etc )
> >> and
> >> http://pok.heliohost.org/eo/tools/Sxava/sxava8.sed
> >> ( s/p/๐/ig etc).
> >
> >> See http://pok.heliohost.org/eo/tools/Sxava/sxava.html#sec27
> >> (in Esperanto).
> >
> >
>
>
--
*"Adventure before Dementia or Disability"*
? why not ?
From: Sergei Pokrovsky <sergio.pokrovskij@...>
Date: 2015-03-26 08:21:58 #
Subject: Re: [shawalphabet] Hey
Toggle Shavian
>>>>> "FH" == Frank Hermit writes:
FH> HI,
FH> I have downloaded the font as in
FH> https://www.google.com/get/noto/pkgs/NotoSansShavian-unhinted.zip
FH> and installed it, and I see it among the fonts in
FH> Windows/fonts.
FH> But,
FH> I am afraid your boxes of uni-code remain boxes of unicode.
You did not tell us, what your mailer is. Probably your program is
not clever enough, and you have to specify the font to use for
"Shavian" (or, if it is not known to the selection menu, for
"Other Writing Systems").
In my case Firefox and Emacs Gnus detect the available Shavian fonts
automatically.
To check the font you could copy-paste the "boxes of Unicode" into
Word or LibreOffice editor, select them and set the Shavian font
for the selected region. This should work.
FH> I looked at you links
>>> One could use
>>> http://pok.heliohost.org/eo/tools/Sxava/sxava.sed
FH> But, I don't know what to do with them.
FH> Your guidance please ?
Please have a look at
http://pok.heliohost.org/eo/tools/Sxava/sxava.html#sec27
(in Esperanto). It works from a Unix console (or in Cygwin, if
you are in Windows; don't know about the DOS console):
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
% echo provo | sxava.sed
๐๐ฎ๐ฉ๐๐ฉ
% echo provo | sxava8.sed
๐๐ฎ๐ฉ๐๐ฉ
%
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
The second script (sxava8.sed) would print onto console if you
the console font contains Shavian letters (NotoSansShavian-unhinted
seems to be proportional, and it does not contain ASCII anyway, so
it cannot be used as a terminal font). But you could save the
result in a file:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
% echo provo | sxava8.sed > provo.txt
% sxava.sed < from.txt > to.txt
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
But I doubt it should work under Windows without Cygwin or some
other kind of binutils and sed.
--
Sergei
From: Frank Hermit <tikiroo22@...>
Date: 2015-03-26 09:15:51 #
Subject: Re: [shawalphabet] Hey
Toggle Shavian
Hi there,
Yes Font works in "Word"
Thank you.
It seems my eMail handlers
( I use gmail. yahoomail, and hotmail )
will not let me add a font.
No matter,
at least now I can copy/paste as you suggest
and read what I need.
Thank you for help,
Regards, Frank
Extract below for you to relate my response to ... ... ...
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Sergei Pokrovsky
sergio.pokrovskij@... [shawalphabet] <shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
>
> You did not tell us, what your mailer is. Probably your program is
>
> not clever enough, and you have to specify the font to use for
> "Shavian" (or, if it is not known to the selection menu, for
> "Other Writing Systems").
>
> In my case Firefox and Emacs Gnus detect the available Shavian fonts
> automatically.
>
> To check the font you could copy-paste the "boxes of Unicode" into
> Word or LibreOffice editor, select them and set the Shavian font
> for the selected region. This should work.
>
> FH> I looked at you
> โrโ
> links
> >>> One could use
> >>> http://pok.heliohost.org/eo/tools/Sxava/sxava.sed
> FH> But, I don't know what to do with them.
>
> FH> Your guidance please ?
>
> Sergei
>
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From: Nathan Sharfi <mailinglists@...>
Date: 2015-04-01 11:17:32 #
Subject: First Shaw at frogorbits.com
Toggle Shavian
As you may know, I have a blog that started out in Orthodox, but ever since May 2013 I've been posting in Quikscript.
Today I'm pleased to announce that the blog's focus will change. Here's an Orthodox adaptation for those who can't read https://www.frogorbits.com/blog/2015/first-shaw/ in a reasonable amount of time:
----------8<-------------
I'd like to announce that the Frog Orbits blog is now moving to an all-Shavian format. In keeping with blog policy, old posts will not be converted.
The move to Shavian will improve the blog in the following ways:
- unification of ยทWhy and ยทWay for better "would you like some cheese with that whine?" rhetorical questions
- absence of txtspeak-presaging abbreviations like "ppl" will speed reading
- moving away from the PUA will improve rendering in IE
It's only the first of April; later this month I'll release ports of King Kong to Shavian.
----------8<-------------
All the best,
Nathan
From: levnaut@...
Date: 2015-04-20 16:17:37 #
Subject: Re: [shawalphabet] Shavian alphabet for Esperanto
Toggle Shavian
Yes I ca see the shavian text in my Firefox browser on my Mac.
Elwin
From: vandenbrinkg@...
Date: 2015-04-23 07:31:22 #
Subject: Re: [shawalphabet] Shavian alphabet for Esperanto
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It is just I have only installed the old true type fonts. How do you install and use UNIFORM?
regards, Paul Gershon
From: david@...
Date: 2015-04-30 11:27:25 #
Subject: Re: First Shaw at frogorbits.com
Toggle Shavian
๐ข๐ง๐ค, ๐๐ซ๐! ๐๐ค๐ช๐๐ ๐๐ณ๐ ๐จ๐ ๐๐ฆ๐ ๐ข๐ณ๐ฏ ๐ญ๐ฎ ๐๐ฎ๐ช๐๐ฉ๐๐ค๐ฆ ๐๐ฉ ๐๐ง๐๐ ๐ข๐ฑ ๐๐ต ๐๐๐ฆ๐ฅ๐๐ต๐ค๐ฑ๐ ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐๐ฎ๐ง๐๐ ๐ฆ๐ฏ ๐๐ฉ ยท๐๐ฑ๐๐ฆ๐ฉ๐ฏ/๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ ๐จ๐ค๐๐ฉ๐๐ง๐ ๐จ๐ฏ๐ ๐๐ฐ๐ ๐ฆ๐ ๐ฉ๐ค๐ฒ๐. ๐ฉ๐ค๐ฒ๐, ๐๐จ๐ ๐ฆ๐, ๐จ๐ ๐ฉ ๐๐ต๐๐ฉ๐๐ฉ๐ค ๐ท๐ค๐๐ณ๐ฎ๐ฏ๐ฉ๐๐ฆ๐ ๐จ๐ฏ๐ ๐ฏ๐ช๐ ๐ก๐ณ๐๐ ๐จ๐ฏ ๐ง๐๐๐จ๐ฅ๐๐ฉ๐ค ๐ช๐ ๐ฉ๐๐ค๐ฒ๐ ๐ง๐๐๐ง๐ฏ๐๐ฎ๐ฆ๐๐ฉ๐๐ฆ ๐๐ต ๐๐ซ๐ ๐ช๐ฏ ๐๐ฆ๐๐๐ค๐ฑ ๐๐ท๐ฎ ๐ก๐ง๐ฏ๐ฉ๐ฎ๐ฉ๐ค ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐๐ต๐๐ฅ๐ฉ๐ฏ๐.
I certainly hope so, However, I regret that you find it a positive feature of his alphabet that Kingsley Read, between his Shavian competition entry and Quickscript, was persuaded to drop his โhwโ letter (a letter Shaw thought desirable)โperhaps only to secure an even number of consonants. There are alas, still some of us who insist now and then upon at least the right, if we dare, to whine about poor wine (and to enjoy the playful ambiguity contained in the phrase โwining and diningโ), who wonder whether the weather will be fine tomorrow, and care not a whit for excessive wit. And to hear โOur Father, witch art in heavenโ is simply dreadful. Hwat a bother! Hwy scrap a useful distinction hwen it requires (a slight aspiration only) so little effort?
Howโs that for a bit of whining?
ยท๐๐
From: Nathan Sharfi <mailinglists@...>
Date: 2015-05-02 12:27:49 #
Subject: Re: [shawalphabet] First Shaw at frogorbits.com
Toggle Shavian
On Apr 30, 2015, at 4:27 AM, david@sheppard.se [shawalphabet] <shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> ๐ข๐ง๐ค, ๐๐ซ๐! ๐๐ค๐ช๐๐ ๐๐ณ๐ ๐จ๐ ๐๐ฆ๐ ๐ข๐ณ๐ฏ ๐ญ๐ฎ ๐๐ฎ๐ช๐๐ฉ๐๐ค๐ฆ ๐๐ฉ ๐๐ง๐๐ ๐ข๐ฑ ๐๐ต ๐๐๐ฆ๐ฅ๐๐ต๐ค๐ฑ๐ ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐๐ฎ๐ง๐๐ ๐ฆ๐ฏ ๐๐ฉ ยท๐๐ฑ๐๐ฆ๐ฉ๐ฏ/๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ ๐จ๐ค๐๐ฉ๐๐ง๐ ๐จ๐ฏ๐ ๐๐ฐ๐ ๐ฆ๐ ๐ฉ๐ค๐ฒ๐. ๐ฉ๐ค๐ฒ๐, ๐๐จ๐ ๐ฆ๐, ๐จ๐ ๐ฉ ๐๐ต๐๐ฉ๐๐ฉ๐ค ๐ท๐ค๐๐ณ๐ฎ๐ฏ๐ฉ๐๐ฆ๐ ๐จ๐ฏ๐ ๐ฏ๐ช๐ ๐ก๐ณ๐๐ ๐จ๐ฏ ๐ง๐๐๐จ๐ฅ๐๐ฉ๐ค ๐ช๐ ๐ฉ๐๐ค๐ฒ๐ ๐ง๐๐๐ง๐ฏ๐๐ฎ๐ฆ๐๐ฉ๐๐ฆ ๐๐ต ๐๐ซ๐ ๐ช๐ฏ ๐๐ฆ๐๐๐ค๐ฑ ๐๐ท๐ฎ ๐ก๐ง๐ฏ๐ฉ๐ฎ๐ฉ๐ค ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐๐ต๐๐ฅ๐ฉ๐ฏ๐.
๐๐ฆ๐ ๐ฟ ๐ฏ๐ด๐๐ฆ๐ ๐ ๐๐ฑ๐ ๐ช๐ฏ ๐ ๐๐ด๐๐, ๐๐ฒ ๐ง๐ฏ๐ฆ ๐๐จ๐ฏ๐? ;)
๐ช๐ฏ ๐ ๐ณ๐๐ผ ๐ฃ๐จ๐ฏ๐, <https://github.com/adiabatic/king-shaw>. ๐๐ผ๐ฏ๐ ๐ฌ๐ ๐ฒ ๐ข๐ณ๐ ๐ด๐ฏ๐ค๐ฆ ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ ๐๐ฆ๐๐ฆ๐.