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From: david@...
Date: 2015-05-04 16:15:32 #
Subject: Re: [shawalphabet] First Shaw at frogorbits.com
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๐๐ง๐, ๐ฒ ๐๐ฆ๐, ๐๐ณ๐ ๐ค๐ฑ๐๐ฉ๐ฎ ๐ช๐ฏ ๐๐ท๐ ๐ฆ๐ ๐ฅ๐ฒ๐ ๐ก๐ณ๐๐ ๐๐ฐ ๐๐ด๐ฆ๐ฏ๐๐ฆ๐๐ง๐ฏ๐๐ฉ๐ค.
๐๐จ๐ฎ ๐ฆ๐ ๐๐ด๐ฎ ๐๐ค๐ช๐, ๐จ๐๐๐ฉ๐ฎ ๐ท๐ค.
๐๐ณ๐, ๐ค๐ง๐ ๐๐ฉ ๐ค๐จ๐ ๐๐ฐ ๐ช๐ฏ ๐ฅ๐ฐโ๐ฒ ๐๐ด๐ฏโ๐ ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐,
ยท๐๐
๐จ๐ฏ๐ ๐ฒ ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐๐ง๐ฏ๐ ๐๐ต ๐๐ฎ๐ฒ ๐๐ฉ ๐ฏ๐๐ต ๐๐ฐ๐๐ด๐ฎ๐ ๐๐ตโฆ
From: Nathan Sharfi <mailinglists@...>
Date: 2015-05-05 07:53:22 #
Subject: Re: [shawalphabet] First Shaw at frogorbits.com
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๐ข๐ง๐ค, ๐ฒ ๐ง๐ฏ๐๐ง๐ ๐ณ๐ ๐ฅ๐ฑ๐๐ฆ๐ <https://github.com/adiabatic/king-shaw>, ๐ฏ ๐ฆ ๐ฆ๐๐ฏ๐ ๐ฉ ๐ก๐ด๐. ๐ช๐ฏ๐ง๐๐๐ค๐ฆ, ๐ฆ ๐ข๐ฉ๐ ๐๐จ๐๐๐ผ ๐ ๐ฅ๐ฑ๐ ๐ ๐๐ฐ๐๐น๐ ๐ค๐ฑ๐ฌ๐ ๐๐จ๐ฏ ๐ฆ ๐ข๐ฉ๐ ๐ ๐๐จ๐ ๐ฌ๐ ๐ ๐๐ค๐ช๐ ๐๐ด๐๐ ๐ฆ ยท๐๐บ๐ฉ๐๐๐ผ ๐๐ฟ๐ผ. (๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ค๐ฐ๐ ๐ง๐ฏ๐ก๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ฝ๐ฆ๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ฆ๐๐ค๐ ๐ ๐๐ฒ๐ฅ ๐๐ฑ๐๐ง๐ฏ, ๐๐ณ๐โฆ)
๐ข๐ฉ๐ ๐๐ต ๐ฟ ๐ฟ๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฒ๐ ยท๐๐ฑ๐๐พ๐ฏ ๐ฏ๐ฌ?
> On May 4, 2015, at 9:15 AM, david@sheppard.se [shawalphabet] <shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> ๐๐ง๐, ๐ฒ ๐๐ฆ๐, ๐๐ณ๐ ๐ค๐ฑ๐๐ฉ๐ฎ ๐ช๐ฏ ๐๐ท๐ ๐ฆ๐ ๐ฅ๐ฒ๐ ๐ก๐ณ๐๐ ๐๐ฐ ๐๐ด๐ฆ๐ฏ๐๐ฆ๐๐ง๐ฏ๐๐ฉ๐ค.
> ๐๐จ๐ฎ ๐ฆ๐ ๐๐ด๐ฎ ๐๐ค๐ช๐, ๐จ๐๐๐ฉ๐ฎ ๐ท๐ค.
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> ๐๐ณ๐, ๐ค๐ง๐ ๐๐ฉ ๐ค๐จ๐ ๐๐ฐ ๐ช๐ฏ ๐ฅ๐ฐโ๐ฒ ๐๐ด๐ฏโ๐ ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐,
> ยท๐๐
>
> ๐จ๐ฏ๐ ๐ฒ ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐๐ง๐ฏ๐ ๐๐ต ๐๐ฎ๐ฒ ๐๐ฉ ๐ฏ๐๐ต ๐๐ฐ๐๐ด๐ฎ๐ ๐๐ตโฆ
From: Nathan Sharfi <mailinglists@...>
Date: 2015-05-23 00:44:00 #
Subject: Shavian support in Windows 10
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๐๐ผ <https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/bb688099#W10>, ยท๐ข๐ฆ๐ฏ๐๐ด๐ 10 ๐ข๐ฆ๐ค ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐๐ค๐ต๐ ยท๐๐ฑ๐๐ฆ๐ฉ๐ฏ ๐๐ฉ๐๐น๐ ๐ฆ๐ฏ ยท๐๐ฐ๐๐ด ๐ฟ๐ฆ ๐ฃ๐ฆ๐๐๐น๐ฆ๐.
๐๐ด ๐ฆ๐ ๐ฟ๐ ๐๐ฆ๐ฏ ๐ช๐ฏ ๐ ๐๐ง๐ฏ๐ ๐ช๐ฏ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ผ ๐ ๐ณ๐๐๐ฎ๐ฑ๐ ๐ ยท๐ฅ๐ฒ๐๐ด๐๐ช๐๐ ๐ค๐ฑ๐๐ง๐๐โฆ
From: david@...
Date: 2015-06-03 18:47:13 #
Subject: Re: [shawalphabet] First Shaw at frogorbits.com
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Am having computer difficulties due to an attempt to get Yosemite
to work properly on an older machineโโthe chief problem of course
is that I also have to struggle with a personal approach to problem-
solving established well before the computer age. At least thatโs the
excuse I prefer, especially after being obliged to receive instruction
in how to operate an iPad from a four-year-old grandson. At any rate
I shall have to write this in standard orthography, or what I believe
you called โorthodoxโ.
Your King-Shaw keyboard looks to be imminently practical, putting
the vowels in the middle and finding a place for everything save the
compounds at the normal lower-case level. This would work well for
me as I donโt bother with the compound letters (I find them cramped
and rather unattractive). You donโt however appear to have a namer
dot, unless Iโve missed it, which could usefully be put up in the upper
left-hand corner ( ` ).
Of course, a Dvorak-like keyboard will require new demands upon
already overloaded memory cells but could be a stimulating challenge.
The keyboard input deviceโโif that is the correct termโ which I now
use (can be found in our files) is the one made by Scott Harrison, one
of our earliest members, in which the letters were assigned locations
according to a scheme devised some time ago by Ross DeMeyere, in
which I believe convenience and ease of use for beginners rather than
efficiency was the prime consideration. DeMeyere, a graphics designer,
also created the handsome Androcles font, one of the first Shavian fonts
made available, and one that closely resembles the typography used in
the dual-alphabetic "Androcles" published in 1962.
I wonder, looking at your blog again and comparing the visual
impression of your April Foolโs post with the other entries, if you are
aware of a certain irony involved in using in the electronic world of
the internet an alphabet expressly designed to be written by hand.
If I understand correctly Kingsley Read took the trouble to create
Quickscript, putting much effort into the alteration of his letter-shapes
so that they could be easily written and joined together in script-form,
after noting the difficulty people had in writing his original alphabetโ
a difficulty that mostly disappears when using ready-made fonts online.
Eventually some capable person will give us a font with proper kerning
and his original alphabet will be lovelier than ever.
hope so,
DSh
From: jesselchesnut@...
Date: 2015-06-09 03:10:37 #
Subject: Keyboard
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I downloaded a keyboard but for some reason it still has squares when I type. How can I avoid this? I used the keyboard from the files page but it has not worked. Could my fonts not be working?
From: Nathan Sharfi <mailinglists@...>
Date: 2015-06-09 15:41:12 #
Subject: Re: [shawalphabet] Keyboard
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> On Jun 8, 2015, at 8:10 PM, jesselchesnut@... [shawalphabet] <shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> I downloaded a keyboard but for some reason it still has squares when I type. How can I avoid this? I used the keyboard from the files page but it has not worked. Could my fonts not be working?
That's what I'd figure. What fonts are you using, what program are you typing text into, and what operating system are you on?
From: david@...
Date: 2015-07-31 11:48:20 #
Subject: Re: Keyboard
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Have you been able to sort things out? I'm sure you've done everything right, but just in case, here's the procedure: you must have a Shavian font installed in your fontbook (or equivalent) and the keyboard from our files added to the keyboard folder (system preferences/keyboard/input sources--don't forget to check the box that displays available keyboards in the menu bar). Then when ready to type, select this keyboard in the menu bar (its name should be in Shavian letters). This should work--if not, then the previous suggestion is probably the only alternative: disable the Shavian fonts you have and download new copies. One must learn the letter arrangement that this keyboard uses (not all that difficult) but when in doubt there is a display in Input Sources. Everything is so much easier with a Shavian keyboard, but of course it does not improve one's calligraphic skills.
Good luck...
From: david@...
Date: 2015-08-20 22:46:29 #
Subject: Language variety
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There are Canadian members of this group, and they may find this online article from the BBC interestingโโperhaps even accurate.
Why is Canadian English unique? http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20150820-why-is-canadian-english-unique
http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20150820-why-is-canadian-english-unique
Why is Canadian English unique? http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20150820-why-is-canadian-english-unique Americaโs neighbour resisted annexation by the US and its people remained UK subjects. But Canadaโs English isnโt exactly British or American, writes Jam...
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Well is it? It may well be. I've heard the historian Margaret MacMillan speak on television and she certainly sounds a little bit different from her colleagues at Oxford. But then so does Niall Ferguson (even more soโโbut he's a Scot). If you are engaged in anything intellectual (or even not) but happen to be from somewhere not in the home counties, even if you were educated there, you are faced with the choice of adhering to, dare I say, (establishment?) social pressure or upholding what you may feel (if you do) to be your particular cultural heritage. Or it may simply be an unconscious processโโentirely, partially, or merely somewhat.
Wondering, againโโ
๐๐
From: david@...
Date: 2015-08-22 21:07:21 #
Subject: Re: Language variety
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Further adventures in the discovery and discernment of Canadian English:
Appendix:English pronunciation - Wiktionary https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:English_pronunciation
Appendix:English pronunciation - Wiktionary https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:English_pronunciation Shortcut: WT:ENPRONKEY Contents 1 English 1.1 Vowels 1.2 Consonants 1.3 Other symbols 2 See also 3 References 4 External links English
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From: rubik67@...
Date: 2015-08-24 07:08:02 #
Subject: Back to school sale: Shaw Alphabet Books
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