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From: "paul vandenbrink" <pvandenbrink@...>
Date: 2005-03-21 16:42:34 #
Subject: Re-evaluation of Shavian

Toggle Shavian
hF /hV

V rEz a lyt v iSMz.
F dOnt TiNk TiNZ R Az blAk & wFt Az V lFk t pPtrE Hem.

(* Switching completely to Shavian on the computer and the internet
is not technically possible at this moment. Still we can do much
more in Shavian than ever before. That not everybody is up to speed
on the technology, does not negate the benefit of using more
Shavian.*)

but wI kAn nyt AfPd t lMz H sapPt v H menI pIpal hM OnlI hAv
a kASVal intDest. hOpfalI it wil grO intM a fUlD undDstAndiN.

(* For the moment, I think we can get back on track by trying to use
some Shavian in every message. *)

but wI dOnt Ivan hAv a kynvenSan fP miksiN /SYvIan & /rOman tekst,
wen wI rFt in a siNgal fynt.
dV V mFnd if F mEk up a kynvenSan & daseminEt it TrM His fPam.

rigRdz, /pYl /vI.

(* P.S. I was asking for help in Embedding HTML text into
Eudora E-Mail messages. Does anyone know if the full service
Eudora product supports HTML? *)

____________________attached__________________________



--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, "Hugh Birkenhead"
<mixsynth@f...> wrote:
> /hF /pYl
>
>
>
> F OnlI sed, "enI riplFz t *His mesaJ* wil bI dalItad", i.e. enI
riplFz H HAt
> Tred. HAt did not saJest enI nV konvDsESanz not in /SEvWn wUd bI
dalItad. F
> woz YlsO not sCIas abQt dalItiN enITiN, hens H ":-)" -- F kUdnt
dalIt enITiN
> from His list Ivan if F wontad t, bikoz mesaJaz R distribjatad vFa
ImEl.
>
>
>
> H fAkt HAt intDest in H grMp hAz tempDeralI tEld of iz nuTiN t dM
wiH wot F
> rOt. it Just hApanz sumtFmz. it's bIn kwFat hC fP a lot loNgD in H
pAst.
>
>
>
> Az fP H regjalDz not hAviN t "prMv enITiN", HAt's not wot it's
abQt. H pqnt
> F woz mEkiN woz, wot's H pqnt in hAviN a grMp fP an imprMvd,
sMpCID Alfabet
> if Yl wI dM iz tYk in H Alfabet wI'D AdvakEtiN t riplEs? Yl wI get
iz topiks
> abQt 'y' vxsas 'o', 'u' vxsas 'a', n uHD topiks HAt kIp getiN
diskust OvD n
> OvD. Just Vz H Alfabet, dOnt kIp tYkiN endlaslI abQt it.
>
>
>
> F'm awX menI pIpl R hAviN difikaltIz salektiN fonts in HX /ImEl
prOgrAmz.
> His iz unfPcanat. F'm sDprFzd, in 2005, sum mElrIdDz stil kAnt
Ivan displE
> /html mEl, let alOn rFt it. rimembD, enIwun kAn pOst in /rOman -
nObodI kAn
> stop Tem! but if pIpl kAn pOst in /SEvWn, F pxsanalI TiNk HE SUd.
uHDwFz wI
> mFt Az wel Yl admit HAt /SEvWn rWlI iznt H fAntAstik nV wE t
rFt /iNgliS wI
> kIp klEmiN it t bI.
>
>
>
> if enIwun wUd lFk sum help in rIdiN|rFtiN /html mEl, dM Ask. mEbI
H salMSan
> iz simplD HAn V TiNk.
>
>
>
> /hV /b
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
>
> > From: paul vandenbrink [mailto:pvandenbrink@s...]
>
> > Sent: 20 March 2005 05:47
>
> > To: shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Subject: [shawalphabet] Re-evaluation: "No more Roman please!"
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > hF /hV
>
> >
>
> > In your original message, "No more Roman please!", you wrote.
>
> > "enI riplFz t His mesiJ not ritan in /SEvWn wil bI dalItad. :-)"
>
> > Some people seem to have taken this to mean that this is now a
Shavian
>
> > letter only site.
>
> >
>
> > His gOz agEnst H pDpes v His sFt wic iz t enkDeJ
>
> > (* This goes against the purpose of this site which is to
encourage *)
>
> > n help nMkumxz lxn t Vz H /SYvIan Alfabet.
>
> > (* and help newcomers learn to use the Shavian Alphabet. *)
>
> > nV tYpiks hAv kum t a grFndiN hYlt, n intDest in QD sFt sImz t
>
> > bI drYpiN. wI nId t rivxs His trend.
>
> >
>
> > I think that you can see that all of the regulars are quite
>
> > conversant with Shavian. We don't have to prove anything.
>
> >
>
> > The odd other topic that comes along on this site, unless it is
>
> > completely extraneous to the subject of writing Phonetically in
>
> > Shavian or Keyboard Shavian should be accepted by one and all.
>
> > As we have seen from all this testing, not all of the community
has a
>
> > platform that can produce Shavian letters in this forum.
>
> >
>
> > sO sum v us must rizPt t kIbPd /SYvIan fP H tFm bIiN.
>
> > (* So some of us must resort to Keyboard Shavian *)
>
> > His iz H midal wE.
>
> > (* This is the middle way. *)
>
> > dM V hAv enI kYments?
>
> >
>
> > rigRdz, /pYl /vI.
>
> > ________________attached____________________
>
> > --- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, "Hugh Birkenhead"
>
> > <mixsynth@f...> wrote:
>
> > > grMp.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > wuns agen, nOwun hC iz tYkiN in /SEvWn. wI'D Yl nAtDiN on abQt
>
> > > sOSOliNgwistiks, fanetiks, Yltxnativ speliN sistamz n Yl HAt,
n in
>
> > H mIntFm,
>
> > > pUD Old /SEvWn iz getiN nO atenSan wotsOevD. it's nO wundD
wI'D not
>
> > getiN
>
> > > enI nV membDz.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > hQ R wI evD gOiN t kanvins H wxld v /SEvIan'z benafits if QD
>
> > Alfabet v cqs
>
> > > in His grMp iz not /SEvWn?
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > wI mFt Az wel rInEm His grMp "JenDal fanetiks|speliN rifPm
diskuSan
>
> > grMp".
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > enI riplFz t His mesiJ not ritan in /SEvWn wil bI dalItad. :-)
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > /hV
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > --
>
> > > No virus found in this outgoing message.
>
> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>
> > > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.7 - Release Date:
>
> > 01/03/2005
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From: david sheppard <dshep@...>
Date: 2005-03-24 06:12:24 #
Subject: test again

Toggle Shavian
an Elmant nOn az stres
pIpal dM luv tM kanfes;
but batwIn mI And V,
And Ha sFkolagists tM,
Vv Just got jOrself in a mes.

From: "dshepx" <dshep@...>
Date: 2005-03-24 06:43:44 #
Subject: Re: yet another test

Toggle Shavian
--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, "Hugh Birkenhead" wrote:
> > He ImEl AplakESan on mF mAk iz apropriatli nEmd "mEl",
>
> > kUdnt bI simplD; but mF test mesaj wyz postad
> > darektli tM Ha grMp intDfEs, not wiH ImEl.
>
> > dSep
>
> dM V hAv grMp mesaJaz sent t jP ImEl adres? if V dM,
> V kAn Just riplF t enI wun v HOz mesaJaz n mEk SP V
> salekt "/h/t/m/l" P "ric tekst" mOd. if V dOnt
> risIv mesaJaz vFa ImEl, send t:
>
> shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com
>
> t hAv grMp mesaJaz sent t jP ImEl adres, log in Az
> jPself At www.yahoogroups.com/group/shavian
> n klik "edit mF membDSip" on H rFt v H pEJ; Hen salekt
> "indiviJMal ImElz" t get Ic pOstiN sent t V.
>
> gUd luk.
>
> /hV /b


Wel, F trFd Ha darekt meTad az V saJestad, stil didnt SO
SEvian At Ha uHD end. I sapOz His mInz HAt I SAl bI ablIJd
tM stik tM Ha tradiSanal wE And simpli kopi Ic mesaJ in
SEvian to a stAndDd tekts aplikESan...tIdias mEbi, but At
lIst it wurks.

TAnks aniwE,
dSep

From: "Newton, Philip" <Philip.Newton@...>
Date: 2005-03-24 07:08:59 #
Subject: RE: [shawalphabet] test again

Toggle Shavian
lUks fFn t mI! -- /f.

-----Original Message-----
From: david sheppard [mailto:dshep@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:12 AM
To: shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [shawalphabet] test again



an Elmant nOn az stres

pIpal dM luv tM kanfes;

but batwIn mI And V,

And Ha sFkolagists tM,

Vv Just got jOrself in a mes.

From: "dshepx" <dshep@...>
Date: 2005-03-24 08:00:51 #
Subject: Re: test again

Toggle Shavian
--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, "Newton, Philip" wrote:


> lUks fFn t mI! -- /f.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: david sheppard [mailto:dshep@g...]
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:12 AM
> To: shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [shawalphabet] test again
>
>
>
> an Elmant nOn az stres
>
> pIpal dM luv tM kanfes;
>
> but batwIn mI And V,
>
> And Ha sFkolagists tM,
>
> Vv Just got jOrself in a mes.


wel grEt! I just fprgot tM set mF I-mEl tekst prefDransaz
tM SYw, sO HAt it kEm Qt az kIbOrd SEvian Onli. nQ F nO!

ragRdz,
dSep

From: "paul vandenbrink" <pvandenbrink@...>
Date: 2005-03-24 14:16:52 #
Subject: Test aborted for now. Onward and upward

Toggle Shavian
hF /daSep
dOnt fret.
F Am in H sAm bOt.
I prifD t Vz H /jAhM intDfEs,
n wen I did trF mF I-mEal kanekSun (* Eudora *)
F fQnd Qt it duzant sapPt H insDSun v (* HTML *) tekst.
gO figjD.

F Am getiN Vst t lUkiN At H /rOman ikwivalent v /SYvIan.
(* I am getting used to looking at the Roman equivalent *)

rigRdz, /pYl /vI.
_______________________attached_______________________
--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, "dshepx" <dshep@g...> wrote:

> > > kUdnt bI simplD; but mF test mesaj wyz postad
> > > darektli tM Ha grMp intDfEs, not wiH ImEl.
> >
> > > dSep
> >
> > dM V hAv grMp mesaJaz sent t jP ImEl adres? if V dM,
> > V kAn Just riplF t enI wun v HOz mesaJaz n mEk SP V
> > salekt "/h/t/m/l" P "ric tekst" mOd. if V dOnt
> > risIv mesaJaz vFa ImEl, send t:
> >
> > shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > t hAv grMp mesaJaz sent t jP ImEl adres, log in Az
> > jPself At www.yahoogroups.com/group/shavian
> > n klik "edit mF membDSip" on H rFt v H pEJ; Hen salekt
> > "indiviJMal ImElz" t get Ic pOstiN sent t V.
> >
> > gUd luk.
> >
> > /hV /b
>
>
> Wel, F trFd Ha darekt meTad az V saJestad, stil didnt SO
> SEvian At Ha uHD end. I sapOz His mInz HAt I SAl bI ablIJd
> tM stik tM Ha tradiSanal wE And simpli kopi Ic mesaJ in
> SEvian to a stAndDd tekts aplikESan...tIdias mEbi, but At
> lIst it wurks.
>
> TAnks aniwE,
> dSep

From: "paul vandenbrink" <pvandenbrink@...>
Date: 2005-03-24 14:29:34 #
Subject: Test successful for Dshep. Onward and upward

Toggle Shavian
sPI /daSep
F spOk t sMn.
kyngrAjalESunz. frANklI, F Am envIus.
ragRdz, /pYl
______________attached__________________

--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, "paul vandenbrink"
<pvandenbrink@s...> wrote:
>
> hF /daSep
> dOnt fret.
> F Am in H sAm bOt.
> I prifD t Vz H /jAhM intDfEs,
> n wen I did trF mF I-mEal kanekSun (* Eudora *)
> F fQnd Qt it duzant sapPt H insDSun v (* HTML *) tekst.
> gO figjD.
>
> F Am getiN Vst t lUkiN At H /rOman ikwivalent v /SYvIan.
> (* I am getting used to looking at the Roman equivalent *)
>
> rigRdz, /pYl /vI.
> _______________________attached_______________________
> --- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, "dshepx" <dshep@g...> wrote:
>
> > > > kUdnt bI simplD; but mF test mesaj wyz postad
> > > > darektli tM Ha grMp intDfEs, not wiH ImEl.
> > >
> > > > dSep
> > >
> > > dM V hAv grMp mesaJaz sent t jP ImEl adres? if V dM,
> > > V kAn Just riplF t enI wun v HOz mesaJaz n mEk SP V
> > > salekt "/h/t/m/l" P "ric tekst" mOd. if V dOnt
> > > risIv mesaJaz vFa ImEl, send t:
> > >
> > > shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > > t hAv grMp mesaJaz sent t jP ImEl adres, log in Az
> > > jPself At www.yahoogroups.com/group/shavian
> > > n klik "edit mF membDSip" on H rFt v H pEJ; Hen salekt
> > > "indiviJMal ImElz" t get Ic pOstiN sent t V.
> > >
> > > gUd luk.
> > >
> > > /hV /b
> >
> >
> > Wel, F trFd Ha darekt meTad az V saJestad, stil didnt SO
> > SEvian At Ha uHD end. I sapOz His mInz HAt I SAl bI ablIJd
> > tM stik tM Ha tradiSanal wE And simpli kopi Ic mesaJ in
> > SEvian to a stAndDd tekts aplikESan...tIdias mEbi, but At
> > lIst it wurks.
> >
> > TAnks aniwE,
> > dSep

From: "Hugh Birkenhead" <mixsynth@...>
Date: 2005-03-24 17:15:11 #
Subject: RE: [shawalphabet] test again

Toggle Shavian
did it rWlI??



it kEm TrM t mI Az plEn tekst!



wot iz gOiN on wiH /jyhMgrMps...



/hV /b



_____

From: Newton, Philip [mailto:Philip.Newton@...]
Sent: 24 March 2005 07:09
To: 'shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [shawalphabet] test again



lUks fFn t mI! -- /f.

-----Original Message-----
From: david sheppard [mailto:dshep@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:12 AM
To: shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [shawalphabet] test again

an Elmant nOn az stres

pIpal dM luv tM kanfes;

but batwIn mI And V,

And Ha sFkolagists tM,

Vv Just got jOrself in a mes.






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From: "Philip Newton" <philip.newton@...>
Date: 2005-03-25 11:03:28 #
Subject: RE: [shawalphabet] test again

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From: "Hugh Birkenhead" <mixsynth@...>
Date: 2005-03-25 12:42:24 #
Subject: RE: [shawalphabet] test again

Toggle Shavian
mF ImEl klFant iz YlsO /QtlUk 2003, wiH Yl lEtast pAcaz. pDhAps mF opSanz
Rnt set rFt P sumTiN.



verI strEnJ.



/hV /b



_____

From: Philip Newton [mailto:philip.newton@...]
Sent: 25 March 2005 11:03
To: Shaw Alphabet Mailing List
Subject: RE: [shawalphabet] test again



on /TxzdE, 24 /mRc 2005 17:13:40 -0000,
<mailto:mixsynth@...> "/hV /bxkanhed"
<mixsynth@...> sed:

did it rWlI??

jes, it did. His woz At wxk, VziN /QtlUk 2003 (F TiNk).

it kEm TrM t mI Az plEn tekst!

nQ HAt F lUk At it mP klOslI, it apCz HAt it woz sent Az "tekst/enrict" ryHD
HAn /html... F sapOz jUD ImEl klFant duzant sapPt Hat. nP duz /JImEl, fP HAt
matD.

wot iz gOiN on wiH /jyhMgrMps...

nuTiN t dM wiH /jyhMgrMps His tFm, Fd sE... Just H fAkt Hat /dSep Coz an
unVZMal tekst enkOdiN.

cCz,
/filip

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