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From: Scott Harrison
Date: 2003-12-08 09:35:37 #
Subject: Re: [shavian] New keyboard mapping (repost)

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> What layout do you use, Scott? I can't remember if you said or not.
> Is
> it the traditional one, or different?
>
>
I use the "classic" method that is found in the fonts by Ross
Demeyere. However, in his fonts he uses the slash key for the namer
dot, and I use capital B instead (since the slash will be used in
normal writing). Therefore, the dead keys in my key mapping are
capital G, K, and L.

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From: John Warner
Date: 2003-12-08 09:53:42 #
Subject: [shavian] re: setting up a Shavian keyboard

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I have located a cheap supply of "Swedish/Finnish" keyboards - they have
the "advantage" of the QWERTY layout with extra keys making accented
letters easier. They are also USB so they are fairly easy to install.
With USB I always think of dear old Bill Gates getting the blue screen
of death when he plugged in a USB device at the launch of Win98.

I have located a company who make stick on patches for keyboards and
they do a do-it-yourself kit for 20 USD so I have ordered one to see if
it works and then I will have a fully Shavian keyboard.

I have decided to stick with the "traditional" layout with this one as I
know the keys better that way.

I will update you on this when I receive my adaption kit.

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From: krisveren
Date: 2003-12-08 18:27:57 #
Subject: [shavian] 345. doktor /sMs n kopirFt

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From: RSRICHMOND@a... </group/shavian/post?
postID=WesAu2y4MVC4N8MYywsKw100sWHx8xaLNDd2U7MhTzRdZuvbxr7OGMbJ-
smwnGvk5aEECTpaC1E6Aw> Date: Sat Dec 6, 2003 11:40 am Subject:
Improving Learning curve

Be very careful about Dr. Seuss. The "Doctor Seuss Police" are out
there looking for any unauthorized use of their material - or so
says my wife, a storyteller, and she can quote you the rules for
storyteller use of Dr. Seuss. - They're almost as bad as the "Disney
Police" I think. They certainly do authorize foreign language
translations, with graphics. Somewhere
........

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345. doktor /sMs n kopirFt

kErAkter iz not jMnIk. it iz wot wI mEk it.
Ic personAliti, hQever, iz jMnIk. HO it mE sIm t cEnJ, it duz not,
its OriJinal potenSal iz simpli unfOldiN. bIiN jMnIk, personAlitIz
yr not komparabal. wFl Her yr similar tFps, nO 2 yr Fdentikal. Ic
iz individjMali perfekt; n perfekSon iz a Jem v mAni fAsets.

kopirFt lY trFz t defFn intelektjMal properti for H purpos v enEbliN
a person t profit for a limited piariod v tFm from Her On jMnIk
krIEtiv ekspreSonz.

in rIAliti Her iz Onli wun mFnd wiH wic Ic v us TiNks. for His
rIzon FdIas yr not kopirFtabal HO H spesifik teknIk for ekspresiN An
FdIa iz. Her yr mAni ekzAmpulz v invenSonz HAt hAv OriJinEted At H
sEm tFm in kuntrIz fyr distAnt from wun AnoHer.

hIr iz a mor personal ekzAmpul: mF broHer, /sterliN, An ilustrEtor,
workd in /la hqja Onli a fjM blokz from H stMdiO v
doktor /sMs. /sterliNz drYiN woz v a stMpid juN mAn smFliN, HO Her
woz a lyrJ hOl, Open At bOT endz, HAt went komplItli TrM hiz skul n
wind woz blOiN TrM it. H ilustrESon woz t Ad hjMmor t a kwOtESon bF
sister /elizabeT keni, An /ystrElian developer v pOliO Terapi.

SI hAd riten, "som mFndz remEn Open loN enuf for H trMT not Onli t
enter but t pAs on TrM bF wE v a redi ekzit wiHQt pYziN Aniwer aloN
H rQt."
His ilustrEted tekst woz publiSd 9\1989. several wIks lEter
doktor /sMs jMzd ekzAktli e sEm ilustrESon FdIa t emfasFz H
stMpiditi v juN pIpul bekumiN adikted t drugz.

H hjMmorus Hyt sImd t OriJinEt wiH sister /keni. mF broHer Aded An
ilustrESon t it; doktor /sMs rIdrM it in hiz On stFl t ilustrEt a
stEtment abQt drug abjMs. wFl H riten kApSonz wer Onli vEgli
similar--eksept for stFlistik renderiN H drYiNz wer unmistEkabli
Fdentikul, but sins hI hAd not AktjMali rIprinted mF broHerz drYiN
Her woz nO vFolESon v kopirFt lY.

mF broHer woz AktjMali elEted HAt suc a fEmus kyrtMnist Hyt hiz work
woz gUd enuf t stIl!
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From: Ethan
Date: 2003-12-09 04:23:30 #
Subject: Re: [shavian] 345. doktor /sMs n kopirFt

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From: dshepx
Date: 2003-12-09 05:08:08 #
Subject: [shavian] Waiting at the Window

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F dOnt akspekt eniwon ta aprMv
of His meTad ov spelih, but sO bI
it -- F Tihk it loJikal.

..............................................

wEtih At Ha winda

HIz yr mF tM drops ov rEn,
wEtih on Ha winda-pEn.
F Am wEtih Nir ta sI,
Nwic Ha winih won wil bI.
bOT av Ham NAv difrent nEmz,
won iz /Jon And won iz /JEmz.
Yl Ha best And Yl Ha wurst,
kumz from Nwic ov Ham iz furst.
/JEmz NAz Just bagun ta Mz,
NIz Ha won F wont ta lMz.
/Jon iz wEtih ta bagin,
Nez He won F wont ta win.
/JEmz iz gOih slOli on,
sumTih sort ov stiks ta /Jon.
/Jon iz mMvih of At lyst, *
/JEmz iz gOih preti fyst. **
/Jon iz ruSih dQn Ha pEn,
/JEmz iz gOih slO agEn.
/JEmz Naz met a sort ov smir,
/Jon iz getih veri nir.
Iz NI gOih fyst anuf?
(/JEmz NAz fQnd a pIs ov fluf.)
/Jon NAz kwikli Nurad bF,
(/JEmz woz tylkih ta a flF.)
/Jon iz HAr, And /Jon NAz won!
lUk! F tOld V! Nirz Ha sun!

/E. E. miln ~1925

* or lAst
** or fAst

His lital pOam Vzaz Yl He SYskript sFnz
aksept [Z] and [q], Ivan Yl He kompQnd
vQwalz, SUd V cMz ta Vz Ham. if it wur
prefast wiH sum sort ov intraduktSan
suc az [a smYl bqz rEni-dE pleZD] V wUd
NAv Ham Yl.




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From: Ethan
Date: 2003-12-09 06:40:07 #
Subject: Re: [shavian] Waiting at the Window

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dshepx wrote:
> F dOnt akspekt eniwon ta aprMv
> of His meTad ov spelih, but sO bI
> it -- F Tihk it loJikal.
>
> ..............................................

That is a different way! It's still legible, though.

Here's my version, for comparison. Also, because I've never read that
poem before, and I like it!

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From: Hugh Birkenhead
Date: 2003-12-09 10:33:33 #
Subject: Re: [shavian] Waiting at the Window

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hQ kum V'v Vzd 'h' insted v 'N' n vFs vxsa?

GhV

----- Original Message -----
From: Ethan <mailto:ethanl@...>
To: shavian@... <mailto:shavian@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 6:38 AM
Subject: Re: [shavian] Waiting at the Window

dshepx wrote:
> F dOnt akspekt eniwon ta aprMv
> of His meTad ov spelih, but sO bI
> it -- F Tihk it loJikal.
>
> ..............................................

That is a different way! It's still legible, though.

Here's my version, for comparison. Also, because I've never read that
poem before, and I like it!

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________________________________





wEtiN At H windO

bF /E. /E. /miln
________________________________


HIz R mF tM drops v rEn,
wEtiN on H windO-pEn.


F Am wEtiN hC t sI,
wic H winiN wun wil bI.


bOT v Hem hAv difrant nEmz,
wun iz /Jon n wun is /JEmz.


yl H best n yl H wxst,
kumz frum wic v Hem iz fxst.


/JEmz hAz Just bIgun t Mz,
hIz H wun F wynt t lMz.


/Jon iz wEtiN tM bIgin,
hIz H wun F wynt t win.


/JEmz iz gOiN slOlI on,
sumTiN sPt v stiks t /Jon.


/Jon iz mMviN of At lAst,
/JEmz iz gOiN pritI fAst.


/Jon iz ruSiN dQn H pEn,
/JEmz iz gOiN slO agEn.*


/JEmz hAz met a sPt v smC,
/Jon iz getiN vXI nC.


iz hI gOiN fAst Inuf?
(/JEmz hAz fQnd a pIs v fluf.)


/Jon hAz kwiklI hxId bF,
(/JEmz wuz tykiN t a flF.)


/Jon iz HX, n /Jon hAz wun!
lUk! F tOld V! hCz H sun!

________________________________


* F wUd nPmalI sE "agen", but "agEn" iz Akseptabal fP sEk v rFm.

From: Hugh Birkenhead
Date: 2003-12-09 10:34:03 #
Subject: Re: [shavian] Waiting at the Window

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hQ kum V'v Vzd 'h' insted v 'N' n vFs vxsa?

GhV

----- Original Message -----
From: Ethan <mailto:ethanl@...>
To: shavian@... <mailto:shavian@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 6:38 AM
Subject: Re: [shavian] Waiting at the Window

dshepx wrote:
> F dOnt akspekt eniwon ta aprMv
> of His meTad ov spelih, but sO bI
> it -- F Tihk it loJikal.
>
> ..............................................

That is a different way! It's still legible, though.

Here's my version, for comparison. Also, because I've never read that
poem before, and I like it!

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wEtiN At H windO

bF /E. /E. /miln
________________________________


HIz R mF tM drops v rEn,
wEtiN on H windO-pEn.


F Am wEtiN hC t sI,
wic H winiN wun wil bI.


bOT v Hem hAv difrant nEmz,
wun iz /Jon n wun is /JEmz.


yl H best n yl H wxst,
kumz frum wic v Hem iz fxst.


/JEmz hAz Just bIgun t Mz,
hIz H wun F wynt t lMz.


/Jon iz wEtiN tM bIgin,
hIz H wun F wynt t win.


/JEmz iz gOiN slOlI on,
sumTiN sPt v stiks t /Jon.


/Jon iz mMviN of At lAst,
/JEmz iz gOiN pritI fAst.


/Jon iz ruSiN dQn H pEn,
/JEmz iz gOiN slO agEn.*


/JEmz hAz met a sPt v smC,
/Jon iz getiN vXI nC.


iz hI gOiN fAst Inuf?
(/JEmz hAz fQnd a pIs v fluf.)


/Jon hAz kwiklI hxId bF,
(/JEmz wuz tykiN t a flF.)


/Jon iz HX, n /Jon hAz wun!
lUk! F tOld V! hCz H sun!

________________________________


* F wUd nPmalI sE "agen", but "agEn" iz Akseptabal fP sEk v rFm.


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From: Star Raven
Date: 2003-12-09 19:06:05 #
Subject: [shavian] Can we have overlooked this?

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I was writing today and realised something. How does one quickly sign
one's name in shavian? Mine would be a little scribbled, but "Erin
Lowe" is only five total characters. Anyone else tried out a signature?
Perhaps we found the saving grace of QS (j/k, QS fans :)

--Star

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The Piscean Warrior:
Protector of the Innocent
Defender of the Weak
Wanderer of the Off

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From: kirk desimus
Date: 2003-12-11 05:46:45 #
Subject: [shavian] 412fin word element

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atachment....



I.F.E. internashunal fonetik english

t = to e = the v = of n = and

AEIOU az in Age Eat Ice Oak yoU

digrafs: ah au ch oo ou oi/oy sh th zh.

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