Hi Joe
it is definately an uphill battle, but I am certain, that I will be
able to find
some out-of-the-ordinary people, who would find it helpful to know
the Shaw Alphabet.
I was thinking of Stenographers, just as an example. They normally
use a little stenotype machine or a little modified computer for
their shorthand reporting (transcribing),
but they probably need a way of writing out an unrecognisable word
Phonetically until they puzzle it out. It would als be helpful for
them to have a manual backup method of writing precisely what the
witness said. An ordinary Shorthand might work, but although much
faster, a manual Shorthand (i.e. Pitman, Gregg) has some
disadvantages in creating a Legal instrument.
I believe court-room stenographers need almost as much time to
prepare a cleartext version of their report on what was said, as it
takes to punch out the Shorthand version.
Nowadays they have a lot software support, but I dont think the
court allows direct sound recording?
As for teaching a child the Shaw Alphabet to a kid. I think it
really depends on the kid and whether you have a window of
opportunity before he starts regular Public school (Kindergarden).
Just because T.O. is inconsistent and difficult for anyone to
memorise, it doesn't mean we should withhold knowledge about Shavian
which doesn't have these stumbling blocks. It is sometimes useful
for the kids to know a bit a bit about different Alphabets, even
though they will mostly be developing their T.O. spelling skills.
I know a lot of Orthodox Jewish Families teach the children the
Hebrew Alphbet starting at age 3 for religous purposes, and it does
not seem to hinder their ability to learn the English Roman
Alphabet.
Obviously, if the kid finds it tough going or confusing, you would
drop the emphasis on using the Shaw Alphabet
And as for the idea that they shouldn't learn Shavian until Shavian
has already been well accepted by the adults that they'll encounter.
(i.e. School Teachers)
I guess I would also be a little fearful about a teachers reaction
to my child telling him he can already read and write, but in
Shavian.
Teacher's are not notably open-minded in matters of their own field
of education (speciality).
But what is the alternative? I guess we have to create a familiarity
with Shavian Script, just so people will not find in foreign and
alien.
That's one of my projects. To create a one page overview, that
answers the 2 questions. What is Shavian (General Idea)?
What does it look like?
Regards, Paul V.
P.S. You'd think more English Teachers would be interested in
Shavian, but they
seem to have too much personal investment in the old way of teaching
reading to really support any alternate method. Teachers in America
are pretty dogmatic.
P.P.S. Simon Barne was a teacher exception. But what happened to
him? He is gone and his site (wwww.simonbarne.com) is up for sale.
--- In shavian@..., "Joe" <allegrox_2000@y...> wrote:
> --- In shavian@..., "paul vandenbrink"
<pvandenbrink@s...> wrote:
> > Anybody else have any luck attracting any students.
>
> I've been trying to convince my brother to learn it, and he says
he wants to, but
> always another time. Procrastination runs in the family. ^_^;
>
>
> > Nobody has any qualms about teaching it to a young child?
> I wouldn't want to teach it to a young child right now. They have
a hard enough time learning to spell one way. They don't really
need to learn another until Shavian has a
good foothold with the adults they'll encounter.
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