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Dear Sir;
I can't help you buy a copy, but if you can't find one, I can xerox my
xerox of a copy for you for postage costs. Daniel Szczurek
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>From: David Lemon <lemon@Adobe.COM>
>To: shavian@eGroups.com
>Subject: [shavian] 'Androcles & the Lion' info?
>Date: Fri, Jan 7, 2000, 1:42 PM
>

>Thirty years ago I learned to read Shavian (and to speak for a while in a
>rather British English) by reading _Androcles and the Lion_ in its
>two-alphabet version. That was a copy borrowed from my high school library.
>Now I'm hoping to buy a copy to keep. The book searches I've done online
>don't give me any indication of whether the books they list have the
>Shavian version. I'd appreciate it if anyone could tell me the publisher
>and date of publication so I might recognize it in these listings.
>
>And of course I'd be delighted if someone can tell me where a copy is
>available for sale.
>
>Many thankss,
>David Lemon
>
>
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Greetings all.

> >From: David Lemon <lemon@Adobe.COM>
> >Now I'm hoping to buy a copy to keep. The book searches I've done online
> >don't give me any indication of whether the books they list have the
> >Shavian version. I'd appreciate it if anyone could tell me the publisher
> >and date of publication so I might recognize it in these listings.
> >
> >And of course I'd be delighted if someone can tell me where a copy is
> >available for sale.

I'd suggest a used book search at two locations I'm familiar with:

Advanced Book Exchange: http://www.abebooks.com/
Bibliofind: http://www.bibliofind.com

Both sites have pretty extensive networks and databases. It may take some persistence and repeated searches, as the listings change pretty frequently.

I was able to find a perfect copy of the "Trustees" edition a couple of years ago from a Canadian bookseller. I'm sure there have to be other copies out there.

Lee



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I just did a quick test search on Advanced Book Exchange and the first item that came up was a Shaw's alphabet version (searching by "title").

Lee



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Lee A. Miller wrote:
> Advanced Book Exchange: http://www.abebooks.com/

I got hold of one thanks to ABE (from Millenium Books in Canada somewhere).

Cheers,
Philip

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Hi all,

I have put The Gift of the Magi on my web site. Next comes A Christmas Carol (but not for at least a week).

I have also created a PostScript file for the Periodic Table of Elements but cannot seem to distill it into a PDF properly. Does anyone know where I can try another distiller?

--Scott

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Scott,

I've had problems distilling tables, too. I think the solution I found was to split my table up into two or three different bits, width-wise. Acrobat Distiller doesn't seem to like wide tables, but doesn't seem to mind tall ones. Don't know of any other distillers, though, sorry.

----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Harrison <Scott_Harrison@...>
To: <shavian@...>
Sent: 12 January 2000 4:11 pm
Subject: [shavian] A little late for Xmas...


Hi all,

I have put The Gift of the Magi on my web site. Next comes A Christmas Carol (but not for at least a week).

I have also created a PostScript file for the Periodic Table of Elements but cannot seem to distill it into a PDF properly. Does anyone know where I can try another distiller?



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Mr. Gabhart,

Read seemed to have abandoned many of the analytical aspects of
Shawscript when creating Quickscript.

He says that he did this because some people had trouble forming some
of the Ss characters.

My guess is that the overlap is about 80% altho as you say it is a little
confusing when some of the grapheme-phoneme correspondences are changed.

Have you checked out the keyboard Shavian - This is what you have to type
in order to access the special characters on the Shavian fonts?

I am mostly concerned about ease of learning. Did you find Quickscript
any easier to acquire than Shawscript?

In what respects was it simplified for you.

Steve Bett

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http://204.196.54.50/Spanish/spanglish.htm
This is one door to about 20 pages on orthography and notations
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:18:53 Paige Gabhart wrote:
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>I just discovered this group this evening. I was surprised to find
>real people actually interested in Shawscript. My only regret is that
>after corresponding with Kingsley Read some thirty years ago, he sent
>me a Quikscript manual, and I stopped using Shawscript, which I had
>initially learned and switched over to Quikscript. Now I find it
>difficult to read the Shawscript, especially since some of its letters
>represent different sounds in Quikscript. I made the switch to
>Quikscript, after reading its manual, because I became convinced that
>Mr. Read had made some significant improvements over Shawscript,
>especially in regards to handwritten script and the simplification of
>some of the Shawscript symbols. Now, it is a little dismaying to find
>people interested in promoting the use of Shawscript, making fonts
>available in it, etc. and ignoring what I have felt to be the improved,
>second version of Shawscript, i.e. Quikscript.
>
>This is probably a futile question, but does anyone know of a
>downloadable font for Quikscript? It would really be nice to be able
>to type in Quikscript on my computer for office files, etc.
>Previously, I sometimes use Quikscript in my business, but it has
>always been for handwritten notes.
>
>All the best to everyone.
>
>
>Paige Gabhart
>
>


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At 06:18 PM 1/11/00 -0800, you wrote:
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>This is probably a futile question, but does anyone know of a
>downloadable font for Quikscript? It would really be nice to be able

I will be creating one soon.


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In a message from Lionel Ghoti <lionel_ghoti@...>
dated Wed, 12 Jan 2000 21:34:04 +0000, my mailer made me see:

-> Scott,
->
-> I've had problems distilling tables, too. I think the solution I found was to split my table up into two or three different bits, width-wise. Acrobat Distiller doesn't seem to like wide tables, but doesn't seem to mind tall ones. Don't know of any other distillers, though, sorry.
->

Lionel,

I think the problem is because the distiller cannot handle the Ghoti font. I embedded it in the PostScript file to ensure it would print on any system. However, because the original I got from Ross DeMeyere was a TTF font I needed to convert it to a Type 42 PostScript font (embedded TTF). I think the distiller cannot handle a Type 42 font. I will send a note to Ross to see if I can get a non-TTF version of his font.

--Scott

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