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From: Joseph Spicer <wurdbendur@...>
Date: 2006-06-11 22:28:47 #
Subject: Re: [shawalphabet] Re: New Ghoti Filleter - Quirks
Toggle Shavian
I have to disagree with you about removing homonyms. phpGhotiFilleter is
a converter, not a censor. I just hope this time that "to" is correctly
recognized as t and not as tM like "too" and "two". It seemed to work
correctly when I tried it. (It previously included, for some reason with
a preference for tM.)
--
Regards,
Joseph Spicer
JOsaf spFsD
paul vandenbrink wrote:
Hi Lionel
Sorry you feel that way about your code.
It worked quite well in both of it's incarnations.
The problems, we brought up could easily be handled by an
exclusion file.
Down with Apostrophes. I even think that
we should filter out some of these extraneous old-fashioned
Homonyms, anyway. Make every one use the word, "also" "as well" instead
of that awkward, "too".
It's all too much. {Oops)
Regards, Paul V.
From: "yahya_melb" <yahya@...>
Date: 2006-06-12 13:24:43 #
Subject: Re: New Ghoti Filleter - Quirks
Toggle Shavian
--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, "Lionel Ghoti" <Lionel.Ghoti@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> I wouldn't advise going ahead and using phphGhotiFilleter at all yet,
> except as a test. Nothing happened to it last weekend because I
> couldn't be bothered, but that was because I'd found the week before
> it particularly draining, work-wise. I am more than likely to update
> it to some degree this weekend.
[snip]
Hi Lionel,
I'm new to this list, so this is the first time I've heard
of your "Filleter". Just curious ... how come you don't
call it "phpGhotiGholleter" instead of "phpGhotiFilleter"?
;-)
Regards,
Yahya
From: "Lionel Ghoti" <Lionel.Ghoti@...>
Date: 2006-06-12 18:41:22 #
Subject: Re: New Ghoti Filleter - Quirks
Toggle Shavian
Homographs (sic) will not be removed! "To" will always be translated
to Shavian "t". "Two" and "too" will always have a long vowel. Nothing
happened at the weekend. I did some walking and barbecuing. The
weather here is too freakish to permit PHP coding. Withering sun, then
football-sized hailstones! Will continue when the roof of my house has
been secured.
LG
--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Spicer <wurdbendur@...> wrote:
>
> I have to disagree with you about removing homonyms.
phpGhotiFilleter is
> a converter, not a censor. I just hope this time that "to" is correctly
> recognized as t and not as tM like "too" and "two". It seemed to work
> correctly when I tried it. (It previously included, for some reason
with
> a preference for tM.)
>
> --
> Regards,
> Joseph Spicer
> JOsaf spFsD
>
>
> paul vandenbrink wrote:
>
> Hi Lionel
> Sorry you feel that way about your code.
> It worked quite well in both of it's incarnations.
> The problems, we brought up could easily be handled by an
> exclusion file.
> Down with Apostrophes. I even think that
> we should filter out some of these extraneous old-fashioned
> Homonyms, anyway. Make every one use the word, "also" "as well"
instead
> of that awkward, "too".
> It's all too much. {Oops)
> Regards, Paul V.
>
From: "yahya_melb" <yahya@...>
Date: 2006-06-12 13:43:08 #
Subject: Intro
Toggle Shavian
Hi all!
My name's Yahya and I'm a recovering proof-reader ...
No! I meant to say, I'm a convicted conlanger and
afficionado of aberrant autochthonies. Whoops!
That's not quite it, either. Well, the "conlanger"
bit is true enough; I do spend a lot of time on the
CONLANGS list out of Brown, and have been known to
document some constructed languages, which I uncovered
lurking in the wilds of the forgotten corners of my
own mind.
Many years back, I was idly reading a magazine at the
barber shop (the one with the pretty girls in it (no,
no! the magazine, not the shop)), when I chanced upon
an article saying someone had won an unimaginable sum
of money for fulfilling the bequest of GBS, to wit,
the creation of a new alphabet for spelling English
very much better. (Whether "better" meant phonetically
or phonemically wasn't made clear.) And there, across,
the top of a double spread, were these incredible
squiggles. I became quite excited at all this, because
I could see in a flash that my huge investment in
learning to spell English correctly was going to go
down the gurgler. I showed my Dad, also waiting for a
short back and sides, and he harrumphed "Harrumph!
Never catch on." Then he said, "What are you reading
that dirty book for? Give it here!"
Turns out my old Dad was right; I need not have worried.
Years later, I had still only found one other person
who'd ever *heard* of Shavian, let alone thought about
it. That was a mad Englishman called Callaway. How
do I know he was mad? Not only did he know about it,
but he actually *used* it - AND he was in the process
of developing computer fonts for it! From that chance
meeting, friendship grew. (Hi, Andy!) But until the
other day, when the CONLANG list erupted with Yet
Another (interminable) English Pronunciation Thread,
and someone mentioned Shavian *and this list*, I never
knew there was another living soul who ever paid Shaw's
crazy idea any mind.
So there you have it. I'm here, and pleased to make the
acquaintance of other perople surely as deranged as Andy
and myself. Unless, of course, you're all computer
simulations, or constructions of my own (or Andy's?)
mind ...
Regards,
Yahya
From: "dshepx" <dshep@...>
Date: 2006-06-13 06:34:40 #
Subject: Re: Intro
Toggle Shavian
--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com,
--- "yahya_melb" <yahya@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi all!
>
> My name's Yahya and I'm a recovering proof-reader ...
> No! I meant to say, I'm a convicted conlanger and
> afficionado of aberrant autochthonies. Whoops!
> That's not quite it, either. Well, the "conlanger"
> bit is true enough; I do spend a lot of time on the
> CONLANGS list out of Brown, and have been known
> to document some constructed languages, which I
> uncovered lurking in the wilds of the forgotten corners
> of my own mind.
>
> Many years back, I was idly reading a magazine at the
> barber shop (the one with the pretty girls in it (no,
> no! the magazine, not the shop)), when I chanced upon
> an article saying someone had won an unimaginable sum
> of money for fulfilling the bequest of GBS, to wit,
> the creation of a new alphabet for spelling English
> very much better. (Whether "better" meant phonetically
> or phonemically wasn't made clear.) And there, across,
> the top of a double spread, were these incredible
> squiggles. I became quite excited at all this, because
> I could see in a flash that my huge investment in
> learning to spell English correctly was going to go
> down the gurgler. I showed my Dad, also waiting for a
> short back and sides, and he harrumphed "Harrumph!
> Never catch on." Then he said, "What are you reading
> that dirty book for? Give it here!"
>
> Turns out my old Dad was right; I need not have worried.
> Years later, I had still only found one other person
> who'd ever *heard* of Shavian, let alone thought about
> it. That was a mad Englishman called Callaway. How
> do I know he was mad? Not only did he know about it,
> but he actually *used* it - AND he was in the process
> of developing computer fonts for it! From that chance
> meeting, friendship grew. (Hi, Andy!) But until the
> other day, when the CONLANG list erupted with Yet
> Another (interminable) English Pronunciation Thread,
> and someone mentioned Shavian *and this list*, I never
> knew there was another living soul who ever paid Shaw's
> crazy idea any mind.
>
> So there you have it. I'm here, and pleased to make the
> acquaintance of other perople surely as deranged as Andy
> and myself. Unless, of course, you're all computer
> simulations, or constructions of my own (or Andy's?)
> mind ...
>
> Regards,
> Yahya
>
... ... ... ...
Uh-oh, we've been found out. You aren't a representative of
the NSA, are you? If so, ours is a simple but fiendish plot to
replace the alphabet (you wouldn't call that mad, now would
you?) and all of us, or most of us, or some of us, believe strongly
in this noble cause, some of the time. We are ready to do what it
takes to achieve this goal and no sacrifice is too great even if it
requires endless discussion. Our recruiting efforts through the
years have been very successful, and we can now boast almost a
dozen active members; moreover it is probable but not certain
that some may actually be sentient beings, though participation
is open to all interested parties.
at Command Central,
Max Headroom, acting duty officer
From: Star Raven <celestraof12worlds@...>
Date: 2006-06-12 16:54:23 #
Subject: New Graphic Site
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From: "Hugh Birkenhead" <mixsynth@...>
Date: 2006-06-13 08:47:31 #
Subject: RE: [shawalphabet] New Graphic Site
Toggle Shavian
Star, did you knowingly send this?
Looks like a worm or virus of some description.
Hugh B
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Behalf Of Star Raven
Sent: 12 June 2006 17:54
To: 30-up_aussieguys@yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: [shawalphabet] New Graphic Site
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From: "Philip Newton" <philip.newton@...>
Date: 2006-06-13 10:19:56 #
Subject: Re: [shawalphabet] New Graphic Site
Toggle Shavian
On 6/13/06, Hugh Birkenhead <mixsynth@...> wrote:
>
> Star, did you knowingly send this?
>
> Looks like a worm or virus of some description.
http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/newgraphic.asp
A JavaScript worm hitting people who use Yahoo!Mail, apparently.
From: "paul vandenbrink" <pvandenbrink11@...>
Date: 2006-06-13 16:37:01 #
Subject: Re: New Ghoti Filleter - Quirks
Toggle Shavian
Forgive me
Lionel.
In a fit of madness (twinky induced, no doubt), I forgot that
Homonyms are the last
defense against mechanized translation, and must be cherished
for their piquancies.
G-d forbid, the riffraff might be able to figure out
what we are saying.
I suppose we are stuck with them, but it doesn't mean we have to like
it.
Anyway, glad you had an invigorating week-end. We had our rain-storm
a couple weeks ago. Good for the air and the vegitation.
Good health and a recooperation to your roof.
Fond regards, Paul V.
P.S. I also spell/transliterate "To" into the Shavian "t".
"Two" and "too" will always be 2 letters (tM), except when I can
appropriately use the digit 2.
P.P.S. Does anyone else like to use the Ampersand (&) instead of the
Shavian letter Nun. Positive responses preferred.
___________________________attached_______________________
--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, "Lionel Ghoti"
<Lionel.Ghoti@...> wrote:
>
> Homographs (sic) will not be removed! "To" will always be translated
> to Shavian "t". "Two" and "too" will always have a long vowel.
Nothing
> happened at the weekend. I did some walking and barbecuing. The
> weather here is too freakish to permit PHP coding. Withering sun,
then
> football-sized hailstones! Will continue when the roof of my house
has
> been secured.
From: Star Raven <celestraof12worlds@...>
Date: 2006-06-14 00:20:43 #
Subject: RE: [shawalphabet] New Graphic Site
Toggle Shavian
No, Hugh, I didn't... It came from a friend's comp, apparently a yahoo
mail virus. Sorry.
--Star
--- Hugh Birkenhead <mixsynth@...> wrote:
> Star, did you knowingly send this?
>
>
>
> Looks like a worm or virus of some description.
>
>
>
> Hugh B
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Star Raven
> Sent: 12 June 2006 17:54
> To: 30-up_aussieguys@yahoogroups.com.au
> Subject: [shawalphabet] New Graphic Site
>
>
>
>
>
> Note: forwarded message attached.
>
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