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From: "kirk desimus" <kfs111@...>
Date: 2007-12-24 22:05:38 #
Subject: 423. definiShon: sotO vOci
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sotto voce
adv : in an undertone; "he uttered a curse sotto voce" [syn: in a
low voice]
Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)
423.
Sotto voce \Sot`to vo"ce\ [It.]
1. (Mus.) With a restrained voice or moderate force; in an
undertone.
2. Spoken low or in an undertone.
vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
sot·to vo·ce (st vch, stt vch) sotO vOci
</font>adv. & adj.
1. In soft tones, so as not to be overheard; in an undertone: "There
were aspersions cast, sotto voce, but knees quickly folded into curtsies
when introductions were in order" Barbara Lazear Ascher.
2. Music In very soft tones. Used chiefly as a direction.
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[Italian : sotto, under + voce, voice.]
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth
Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2003.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
From: "ross demarlo" <r.demarlo@...>
Date: 2007-12-26 21:41:40 #
Subject: 343. wat iz jUr opinion?
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343.
H deT penalti hAz ben aboliSd in /nM Jerzi---dM jM hAv An opinion abQt
His?
From: "paul vandenbrink" <vandenbrinkg@...>
Date: 2007-12-27 08:50:17 #
Subject: Re: About the Forward Slash /
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Hi Ted
Good.
We are in agreement.
Should put an essentually unused kew to good use.
Regard
--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, "Ted Larson Freeman"
<freeman@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, that's exactly what I meant.
>
> I've made the same proposal for the name dot in Quickscript over in
> the Read_Alphabet group.
>
> Ted
>
>
> On Dec 16, 2007 10:35 PM, paul vandenbrink <vandenbrinkg@...>
wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Ted
> > So do you mean the symbol under the Tilde in the right corner
> > of the key board? I always wondered what that was.
> > I thought it my be some kind of accent for French words,
> > but as obviously Shavian is specific to English, anyway,
> > I think it might make a very good choice.
> > Much better than taking away the rather useful Forward slash.
> > Regards, Paul V.
> > P.S. To one and all.
> > I am setting up a new web-site for Alternate English Alphabets.
> > Obviously, I need to add QuikScript as well as Shavian.
> > Are there any other well known Alternate English Alphabets, that
> > should be mentioned?
> >
____________________________attached_____________________________
> > --- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, "Ted Larson Freeman"
> >
> > <freeman@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I suggest the backquote character for the name dot: `
> > >
> > > It's hardly ever needed, is easy to type, and is visually
> > suggestive
> > > of the name dot.
> > ____________________________________________________
> > > On Dec 16, 2007 12:53 PM, paul vandenbrink <vandenbrinkg@>
> >
> >
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Just an afterthought.
> > > >
> > > > I note that there are a number of other un-used Upper
> > > > case letters in the Shavian Keyboard Mapping.
> > > > In particular, B, F, H, K, L and V.
> > > > Is G the best choice for a Namer dot. In fact,
> > > > We could also use the Apostrophe or the Asterisk Key,
> > > > for the Namer Dot.
> > > >
> > > > The Apostrophe is totally extraneous to Shavian Spelling.
> > > > The Shavian conventions for
> > > > Contractions and Abbreviations have not yet been determined.
> > > > Innovative ideas anyone?
> > > > Regards, Paul V.
> > > >
> > > > P.S. Then the forward Slash cou;d be retained for it's more
> > > > productive functions.
> > > > ________________attched____________________________-
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, "paul vandenbrink"
> > > > <pvandenbrink11@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Quozl
> > > > > It has been a while.
> > > > > Anyway as far as Keyboard mapping goes there is no strict
> > standard.
> > > > > We use the current Keyboard mapping, simply because it iz
> > easy to
> > > > > remember when typing and it is even easier to read, even
if
> > you
> > > > are
> > > > > not able to display the letters in a Shavian font.
> > > > > I would only suggest using a different Capital letter to
> > represent
> > > > the
> > > > > missing Slash symbol. To minimize confusion it is always
> > better to
> > > > add
> > > > > something rather than change the meaning of an existingly
> > known
> > > > Key.
> > > > > You also want to exagerate the size the new Slash Symbol,
to
> > > > prevent
> > > > > confusion with "woe".
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards, Paul V.
> > > > > ___________________________attached______________________
> > > > > Due to the namer dot being on the forward-slash key, it
means
> > that
> > > > > there's no puncuational forward-slash that is usable with
> > Shavian
> > > > > fonts.
> > > > > Granted, it's very similar to "Woe", and by eliminating
it,
> > > > > we do eliminate any confusion between those 2 symbols,
> > > > > but the slash does serve a useful punctuational purpose.
> > > > >
> > > > > In particular, I am thinking of fractions (i.e. 1/2 2/3,
etc)
> > > > > and to indicate a more specific meaning, using a a word
pair.
> > > > > (i.e. I think of her as funny/ha-ha, not funny/peculiar.)
> > > > > I hope others are familar with thsse usages?
> > > > >
> > > > > My proposal is to move the namer dot to an alternate,
unused
> > key,
> > > > > like "G"
> > > > > (which Ross DeMeyere uses in the "Androcles" font), and
> > restore
> > > > the
> > > > > forward
> > > > > slash, either as a "short" Shavian character or as tall &
> > deep as
> > > > > the "tall" &
> > > > > "deep" letters, combined... Thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > > > D.M.Falk, aka Quozl
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
From: "bethany adison" <beth.an@...>
Date: 2007-12-28 18:06:22 #
Subject: 816. leterz
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...v Yl oHer stMpendus invenSonz, wat sublimiti v mFnd must hAv ben hiz
hM konsIvd hQ t komjMnikEt hiz mOst sIkret TYts t Ani oHer person, HO
for distAnt IHer in tFm Or plEs? n wiH nO grEter difikulti HAn H vErius
arEnJment v litel morks upon pEper? let His bI H sIl v Yl H Admirabel
invenSonz v mAn. ---/gAlilEO
From: "paul vandenbrink" <vandenbrinkg@...>
Date: 2007-12-31 00:27:24 #
Subject: Re: 816. leterz
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hF /beTanI
hQ R V?
rFtiN wUd indId bI an impPtant invenSun, but F kunsidD it an evOlMSanXI
prOses. inkomplIt, At H mOment.
ragRdz, /pYl /vI
____________________atAct______________________
--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, "bethany adison" <beth.an@...>
wrote:
> ...v Yl oHer stMpendus invenSonz, wat sublimiti v mFnd must hAv ben
hiz
> hM konsIvd hQ t komjMnikEt hiz mOst sIkret TYts t Ani oHer person, HO
> for distAnt IHer in tFm Or plEs? n wiH nO grEter difikulti HAn H
vErius
> arEnJment v litel morks upon pEper? let His bI H sIl v Yl H Admirabel
> invenSonz v mAn. ---/gAlilEO
>
From: "kirk desimus" <kfs111@...>
Date: 2007-12-31 22:54:44 #
Subject: Re: 816. leterz
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F agrI.
v kOrs hI waz involvd wiH H 42 leterz v /itAlian.
a frend tOld mI HAt telepATi iz nQ bIiN tYt; n sMn, in /denver, korsez
in lOkal jMnivers lANgwaJ wil bI Yferd. if sO, evolMSon iz mMviN rFt
aloN.
.................... 111
--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, "paul vandenbrink"
<vandenbrinkg@...> wrote:
>
> hF /beTanI
> hQ R V?
> rFtiN wUd indId bI an impPtant invenSun, but F kunsidD it an
evOlMSanXI
> prOses. inkomplIt, At H mOment.
> ragRdz, /pYl /vI
> ____________________atAct______________________
>
> --- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, "bethany adison" beth.an@
> wrote:
> > ...v Yl oHer stMpendus invenSonz, wat sublimiti v mFnd must hAv ben
> hiz
> > hM konsIvd hQ t komjMnikEt hiz mOst sIkret TYts t Ani oHer person,
HO
> > for distAnt IHer in tFm Or plEs? n wiH nO grEter difikulti HAn H
> vErius
> > arEnJment v litel morks upon pEper? let His bI H sIl v Yl H
Admirabel
> > invenSonz v mAn. ---/gAlilEO
> >
>
From: "filip tripelo" <jeneralitez@...>
Date: 2008-01-01 20:33:56 #
Subject: pIp tot proverbz fOr prekOSus personz
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pIp tot proverbz fOr prekOSus personz:
H 2 mOst engEJiN pQerz v An YTOr or t mEk nM TiNz fAmiliar n fAmiliar
TiNz nM.
____________________________
/sokratIz [399 bI. sI.] understUd H vAljM v kwesconz:
mAni YTOrz Yfer Anserz befOr HE understAnd H kwesconz.
______________________________
H rIl purpos v bUkz iz t trAp H mFnd intM dMiN its On TiNkiN.B
From: "seth" <seth.askason@...>
Date: 2008-01-04 21:35:30 #
Subject: <>pEJ 2097
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pEJ 2097
"H foHer iz liviN lov, n His lFf v H foHer iz in hiz sonz.
n H spirit v H foHer iz in hiz sonz' sonz--mOrtal men.
wen Yl iz sed n dun, H foHer FdIa iz stil H hFest hjMmAn konsept v god."
?wat iz won v jUr fEvOrit bUks?
His hAz ben mFn sins 3\16\1971--n F must hAv red AnoHer TQzand sins Hen.
.................. /seT B
From: "seth" <seth.askason@...>
Date: 2008-01-06 20:06:44 #
Subject: re:pEJ 2097
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pEJ 1
fOrwOrd
______________
in H mFndz v H mOrtalz v /jUrAnSia--HAt bIiN H nEm v jUr wOrld--Her
egzists grEt konfjMZon respektiN H mIniN v suc termz Az god, diviniti, n
dIiti.____________________
hjMmAn bIiNz or stil mOr konfjMzd n unsertan abQt H relESonSips v H
divFn personAlitIz dezignEted bF HIz nMmerus ApelESonz.___________
bekYz v His konseptjMal poverti asOsiEted wiH sO muc FdeESonal
konfjMZon, F hAv ben direkted t fOrmjMlEt His introduktOri stEtment in
eksplAnESon v H mIniNz wic SUd bI atAcd t sertan wOrd simbolz Az HE mE
bI hIrinAfter jMzd in HOz pEperz wic H /Orvonton kOr v trMT revIlerz hAv
ben YTOrFzd t trAnslEt intM H eNgliS lANgwaJ v /jUrAnSia.
B
it iz eksIdiNli difikult t prezent enlorJd konsepts n AdvAnsd trMT, in
Qr endevOr t ekspAnd kozmik konSusnes n enhAns spiritjMal persepSon, wen
wI or restrikted t H jMs v a sirkumskrFbd lANgwaJ v H
relm._____________________
but Qr mAndEt AdmoniSez us t mEk everi efOrt t konvE Qr mIniNz bF jMziN
H wOrd simbolz v H /eNgliS tuN._________________________
wI hAv ben instrukted t introdMs nM termz Onli wen H konsept t bI
pOrtrEd fFndz nO terminoloJi in /eNgliS wic kAn bI emplqd t konvE suc a
nM konsept porSali Or Iven wiH mOr Or les distOrSon v mIniN.
B
in H hOp v fasilitEtiN komprehenSon n v preventiN konfjMZon on H port v
everi mOrtal hM mE perMz HIz pAperz, wI dIm it wFz t prezent in His
iniSal stEtment An QtlFn v H mIniNz t bI atAcd t nMmerus /eNgliS wOrdz
wic or t bI emplqd in dezignESon v dIiti n sertan asOsiEted konsepts v H
TiNz, mIniNz, n vAljMz v jMnivers rIAliti.
B
but in Order t fOrmjMlEt His fOrwOrd v definiSonz n limitESonz v
terminoloJi, it iz nesesari t AntisipEt H jMsaJ v HIz termz in H
subsekwent prezentESonz.________________
His fOrwOrd iz not, HerfOr, a finiSd stEtment wiHin itself; it iz Onli a
definitiv gFd dezFnd t asist HOz hM SAl rId H akompAnIiN pEperz dIliN
wiH dIiti n H jMnivers v jMniversez wic hAv ben fOrmjMlEted bF An
/Orvonton komiSon sent t /jUrAnSia fOr His purpos.
B
jUr wOrld, /jUrAnSia, iz won v mAni similar inhAbited plAnets wic
komprFz H lOkal jMnivers v /nebadon.______
Hiz jMnivers, togeHer wiH similar kreESonz, mEks up H sMperjMnivers v
/Orvonton, from hMz kApital, /jMversa, Qr komiSon hElz.______________
/Orvonton iz won v H 7 evolMSonari sMperjMniversez v tFm n spEs wic
sirkel H never-beginiN, never-endiN kreESon v divFn perfekSon--H sentral
jMnivers v /hAvOna._____________
At H hort v His Iternal n sentral jMnivers iz H stESonari Fl v paradFs,
H JIogrAfik senter v infiniti n H dweliN plEs v H Iternal god.
B
H 7 evolviN sMperjMniversez in asOsiESon wiH H sentral n divFn jMnivers,
wI komonli refer t Az H grAnd jMnivers; HIz or H nQ OrgAnFzd n inhAbited
kreESonz.___________
HE or YlsO a port v H mAster jMnivers, wic YlsO embrEsez H uninhAbited
but mObilFziN jMniversez v Qter spEs.
B
From: "kirk desimus" <kfs111@...>
Date: 2008-01-08 19:32:05 #
Subject: SEriN Qr TYts
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H desemvirF
SEriN Qr TYts
145. sensESonalizm:
a surfit v H swItest TiNz,
H dIpest lOHiN t H stomak briNz.
--SEkspIr
165. fAlisIz:
Her iz YlwEz An Izi solMSon t everi hjMmAn problem--nIt, plYzibel, n
roN.
--h.l.meNken
212. nEcur v god:
F TiNk wI Yl lov H jMniversal foHer n Yl oHer bIiNz, divFn Or hjMmAn,
bekYz wI disern HAt HIz personAlitIz trMli lov us.
H eksperiens v loviN iz veri muc a direkt respons t H eksperiens v bIiN
lovd.
335. ekonomik FdIoloJIz:
H slEv hAz but won mAster, H AmbiSus mAn hAz Az mAni mAsterz Az Her or
personz hMz Ed mE kontribjMt t H AdvAnsment v hiz fOrcun.
392. kustomz:
lov iz An FdIl TiN, mEraJ a rIl TiN; a konfjMZon v H rIl wiH H FdIl
never gOz unpuniSd.
502. miselEni:
sFens in a 3-dimenSonal wOrld iz Onli a limited vjMpqnt wiHin a
multi-dimenSonal jMnivers.
811. pOetri:
brMts fFnd Qt wEr Her tAlents lF;
a bEr wil not atempt t flF,
a dYg bF instiNkt turnz asFd
hM sIz H dic tM dIp n wFd,
but mAn wI fFnd H Onli krIcur
hM, led bF foli, kombAts nEcur.
B