You think I'm annoying over e-mail, you should meet me in real life :) I have a particular talent to annoy practically anyone. As for her speech, NPR took their time to analyze her speech patterns and accent to figure out why she annoys so many people--I mean, why she has such a unique form of speech. Being linguists, don't we have a right to look at how our leader's speech? Also, what if someone deliberately mispronounced your name. You correct them, but they continue to mispronounce it. Wouldn't that be a little insulting? Isn't insulting someone a great way to hinder diplomacy? I understand that diplomacy is not in the constitution for the job of VP, but it is more important than it was so long ago for our leaders to be visible and work towards peace. The problem with *eye-rack* is that it is pronounced that way deliberately. Since the days of Bush I, it has been deliberately pronounced that way by politicians wanting to appear more powerful, and
dehumanize them. Pronouncing the country correctly brings the humanity back, joins with them in the human race.
I'm sinking back into my shadows of lurking.
--Star
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----- Original Message ----
From: pgabhart <pgabhart@...>
To: shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 6, 2008 8:14:57 PM
Subject: Re: [shawalphabet] hwat did you say?
Star:
It is reassuring to see that some things never change -- such as your
ability to effortlessly annoy me. But that's all right. I don't
labor under the illusion that I am entitled to be unannoyed all the
time.
Is it mandatory that we attempt to pronounce the names of countries the
way the locals do? What if we're not sure how the locals pronounce it,
or we don't have a phoneme in our idiolect which they use? Are we to
attempt to cultivate it?
It strikes me that the Brits don't worry about imitating others'
pronunciations.
Perhaps, it is a hangover from the British Empire, but they seem to
feel entitled to pronounce words from other languages as it suits them
even when they differ from more common pronunciations or that of the
locals. It may be that where Palin comes from most people pronounce
the name of the country "eye-rack." It is a pronunciation I have heard
at times in this country. Communication wasn't hindered. You knew
exactly what she meant, and I doubt you are in a
position to state she is affecting that pronunciation. You did not
hear her pronounce it differently in the past, did you? If not, why
would you assume she is deliberately mispronouncing Iraq now?
I think the problem is you don't like Palin so just admit that and
quit picking her speech apart.
"She's just not the soccer mom she's trying to project." Is a
"soccer mom" anything other than a mother who transports a child to
soccer? Does it imply some particular political leanings? Is there
something I'm missing? Admittedly, most soccer moms aren't also the
governor of a state.
Biden has had his nose in the government trough for 36 years. I am not
sure how one could be more of an insider than he is. I don't
care if he comes from Scranton or Podunk One's birthplace doesn't
determine who is an "insider."
I also did not see Biden shed a tear. There was a momentary catch in
his voice, perhaps. I will assume it was genuine. And I don't
remember Palin saying that Biden did not know what it was like to be a
single parent.
Maybe you prefer the idea of a VP who plagiarized a full 5 pages in a
15 page paper in Law School. As a law school graduate, I find it a
little difficult to believe that Biden got that far in his education
and failed to comprehend the requirements of citing sources. A person
in their 20s that cheats, has a character flaw. That was a conscious
decision on Biden's part. That doesn't just go away. He also finished
76 out of 85 classmates in Law School. Clearly, a first-rate intellect.
Paige
Star Raven wrote:
She
made Joe Biden cry... Mean woman. She told him, a widower, who also
lost a child and nearly his remaining children, that he didn't know
what it was like to be a single parent or wonder about medical costs.
And of course, everyone knows Scranton, PA is where most Washington
insiders come from.
Anyway, I don't doubt the veracity of her accent, it's the "Folksy"
spin she's trying to give it. The whole "Where I'm from, Main Street
America" thing. Have you ever referred to your home as "Main Street
America?" And yes, The earlier mentioned "Gosh Darn it". She's just not
the soccer mom she's trying to project. I honestly don't want someone
who can't pronounce countries helping to dictate foreign policy.
Seriously? Wouldn't someone deliberately mispronouncing your name or
the name of your country offend you? Maybe Shavian would help. ee-ruk,
or ih-rok would be written in her speeches rather than eye-rack. At
least she could prounounce Ahmed Amina... Omina... Ah--ah crap, I can't
spell it now... *sigh*
But at least the Fey clone has two things going for her, she is giving
Tina Fey work, and she's giving us something to discuss other than the
same old same old.
--Star
========="By Grabthar's hammer, by the sons of Worvan, you shall be avenged!"
--Dr. Lazarus, Galaxy Quest
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