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On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 00:11, Thomas Thurman <tthurman@...> wrote:
> make a page
> listing all the fonts we know about with samples. Maybe it could go
> on shavian.org?

Excellent idea, as far as I'm concerned.

If you would start the page and send it to me, that'd be appreciated;
I could simply upload it to the site then.

Or maybe I could try to install some Wiki system or other that anyone
could maintain, though I'm not sure how soon I'm likely to get enough
tuits for that.

Cheers,
Philip
--
Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>

Thomas Thurman wrote:
> 1) I would like to separate the fonts which use the Unicode code
> points from the fonts which use the Latin-to-Shavian mapping.
>
> 2) I would like to clarify the licences of the fonts we have. Several
> of them are marked "all rights reserved", which makes me wonder what
> business I have even downloading it! This may involve finding the
> authors and asking them to explain or to relicense under something
> like the Open Font Licence.
>
> 3) If the licences permit it, I will then create Unicode versions of
> the fonts which use the Latin-to-Shavian mapping, and make a page
> listing all the fonts we know about with samples. Maybe it could go
> on shavian.org?

I have a Unicode font, called ESL Gothic Unicode. As far as I know it
was the first Unicode font to support Shavian. I don't think it has any
license set in it, mainly because I wasn't sure what kind of license to
use. I am a fan of open source software, but fonts aren't software...

I intend to do some more fonts in the future, and to improve the one I
already have. Any font work I do will be available at
http://shavian.ravenscall.net/fonts/ where you can get the current one.

--
Ethan

--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, Ethan <ethan@...> wrote:
> I have a Unicode font, called ESL Gothic Unicode. As far as I know it
> was the first Unicode font to support Shavian. I don't think it has any
> license set in it, mainly because I wasn't sure what kind of license to
> use. I am a fan of open source software, but fonts aren't software...

One licence that's widely used for open source fonts is the OFL:
http://scripts.sil.org/OFL
I'd like to see more fonts being made available under this licence.

I have now made an initial version of the page:
http://marnanel.org/shavian/fonts/
Let me know what you all think. Especially I'd like to hear about
fonts I'm missing or data that's wrong or missing about existing
fonts. Feel free to copy the page to shavian.org.

Thomas

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 04:45, Thomas Thurman <tthurman@...> wrote:
> I have now made an initial version of the page:
> http://marnanel.org/shavian/fonts/
> Let me know what you all think. Especially I'd like to hear about
> fonts I'm missing or data that's wrong or missing about existing
> fonts. Feel free to copy the page to shavian.org.

Thanks; copied to http://www.shavian.org/fonts/ now!

Cheers,
--
Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>

Hi Minim
Hope you find the Shaw Alphabet useful for
your purpose.
Do you have any questions about how to use the
Shsvian Alphabet?
Also, if you are looking for other English Alphabets.
let me suggest you look at www.omniglot.com
or www.newenglishalphabets.com
regards, Paul V.

George Bernard Shaw

"No sooner had Jesus knocked over the dragon of superstition than Paul
boldly set it on its legs again in the name of Jesus."

·ð‘‘𐑢𐑦𐑦𐑑𐑻 𐑯 ·ð‘²&#66651;𐑧𐑯𐑑𐑦𐑒𐑳 𐑣𐑩&#66653; 𐑳 140-𐑒𐑩𐑮𐑦𐑒𐑑𐑻
&#66660;𐑦𐑥𐑳𐑑 𐑪𐑯 𐑐𐑴&#66645;𐑑𐑕. 𐑕𐑴 𐑦𐑓 𐑘𐑵 𐑐𐑴𐑕𐑑 𐑦𐑯 𐑞
·ð‘–&#66673;𐑝𐑾𐑯 𐑩𐑤𐑓𐑳𐑚&#66663;𐑑, 𐑘𐑵 𐑒𐑩𐑯 𐑕𐑱 &#66661;𐑷𐑮!

𐑞𐑧𐑮𐑓𐑷𐑮, &#66674; 𐑣𐑩𐑝 𐑥𐑱𐑛 http://identi.ca/group/shavian -- 𐑳
𐑜𐑮𐑵𐑐 𐑪𐑯 ·ð‘²ð‘›ð‘§ð‘¯ð‘‘𐑦𐑒𐑳 &#66643;𐑷𐑮 𐑐𐑴𐑕𐑑𐑕 𐑦𐑯 𐑞 ·ð‘–𐑱𐑝𐑾𐑯
𐑩𐑤&#66643;𐑳𐑚𐑧𐑑.

Twitter and identi.ca have a 140-character limit on posts. So if you
post in the Shavian alphabet, you can say more!

Therefore, I have made http://identi.ca/group/shavian -- a group on
identi.ca for posts in the Shavian alphabet.

Yahoo mangled that quite impressively with the web interface. Let's
see whether gmail does any better:

·𐑑𐑢𐑦𐑦𐑑𐑻 𐑯 ·𐑲𐑛𐑧𐑯𐑑𐑦𐑒𐑳 𐑣𐑩𐑝 𐑳 140-𐑒𐑩𐑮𐑦𐑒𐑑𐑻
𐑤𐑦𐑥𐑳𐑑 𐑪𐑯 𐑐𐑴𐑕𐑑𐑕. 𐑕𐑴 𐑦𐑓 𐑘𐑵 𐑐𐑴𐑕𐑑 𐑦𐑯 𐑞
·𐑖𐑱𐑝𐑾𐑯 𐑩𐑤𐑓𐑳𐑚𐑧𐑑, 𐑘𐑵 𐑒𐑩𐑯 𐑕𐑱 𐑥𐑷𐑮! 𐑞𐑧𐑮𐑓𐑷𐑮, 𐑲
𐑣𐑩𐑝 𐑥𐑱𐑛 http://identi.ca/group/shavian -- 𐑳 𐑜𐑮𐑵𐑐 𐑪𐑯
·𐑲𐑛𐑧𐑯𐑑𐑦𐑒𐑳 𐑓𐑷𐑮 𐑐𐑴𐑕𐑑𐑕 𐑦𐑯 𐑞 ·𐑖𐑱𐑝𐑾𐑯
𐑩𐑤𐑓𐑳𐑚𐑧𐑑.

Hello to all

i have posted my Shavian Cleared Font. I am interested what you think
about that Font and if it works. The Kerning is not finished, it is
the Version 1.0.

i had a lot of fun with this Font but i cannot read it, i am only a
designer. I will give you this font and hope it works.

Torsten Steil

--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, "torsten.steil"
<torsten.steil@...> wrote:
>
> Hello to all
>
> i have posted my Shavian Cleared Font. I am interested what you think
> about that Font and if it works. The Kerning is not finished, it is
> the Version 1.0.

Hello! I like your font. Thank you for making it!

I have added a sample of it to the font list on
http://marnanel.org/shavian/fonts/ . Could you specify the licence
this font is released under? Also, would you mind also making a
version which had the characters at the Unicode code points?

Thomas