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𐑡𐑳𐑕𐑑 𐑮𐑧𐑛 𐑳 ·𐑢𐑲𐑤𐑛 𐑒𐑢𐑴𐑑 𐑪 𐑥𐑲 ·𐑲𐑐𐑨𐑛.

𐑯𐑴 𐑚𐑦𐑤𐑑-𐑦𐑯 𐑒𐑰𐑚𐑹𐑛𐑟, 𐑚𐑳𐑑 𐑢𐑩𐑯 𐑔𐑦𐑙 𐑨𐑑 𐑳 𐑑𐑲𐑥…

re: iOS 9 etc


𐑞𐑦𐑕 𐑥𐑳𐑕𐑑 𐑥𐑰𐑯 𐑞𐑨𐑑 𐑞𐑨𐑮 𐑦𐑟 𐑩 𐑕𐑰𐑒𐑮𐑩𐑑
‧𐑖𐑱𐑝𐑦𐑩𐑪 𐑱𐑡𐑩𐑯𐑑 𐑦𐑯𐑕𐑲𐑛 𐑞𐑩 ‧𐑨𐑐𐑩𐑤
𐑷𐑮𐑜𐑩𐑯𐑲𐑟𐑱𐑖𐑩𐑯. 𐑘𐑱!
Hope this is legible––am having difficulty

with Shavian fonts at the moment.


And by the way, what did Wilde say?


‧𐑛𐑖

𐑲 𐑔𐑰𐑙𐑒 𐑩 “𐑕𐑑𐑮𐑦𐑐 𐑩𐑯𐑛𐑼𐑿𐑟𐑛 𐑒𐑺𐑳𐑒𐑑𐑼𐑟 𐑓𐑮𐑩𐑥 Apple Symbols.ttc” 𐑚𐑦𐑤𐑛 𐑕𐑒𐑮𐑦𐑐𐑑 𐑚𐑮𐑴𐑒 𐑯 𐑕𐑴 𐑞𐑱 𐑸 𐑡𐑳𐑕𐑑 𐑿𐑟𐑦𐑙 𐑞 𐑳𐑯𐑓𐑦𐑤𐑑𐑼𐑛 𐑓𐑪𐑯𐑑 𐑯𐑬.

𐑴, 𐑯 𐑣 𐑢𐑩𐑟 𐑩𐑜𐑨𐑕𐑑 𐑞𐑨𐑑 𐑲 𐑔𐑪𐑑 𐑣𐑦𐑟 𐑯𐑱𐑥 𐑢𐑩𐑟 ·𐑢𐑦𐑤𐑛 𐑯 𐑒𐑪𐑤𐑛 𐑥𐑰 𐑕𐑩𐑥 𐑯𐑨𐑕𐑑𐑦 𐑯𐑱𐑥𐑟 𐑲 𐑮𐑦𐑓𐑿𐑟 𐑑 𐑮𐑦𐑐𐑰𐑑 𐑦𐑯 𐑐𐑩𐑤𐑲𐑑 𐑒𐑩𐑥𐑐𐑩𐑯𐑦.

> On Sep 23, 2015, at 12:45 PM, david@... [shawalphabet] <shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> re: iOS 9 etc
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> 𐑞𐑦𐑕 𐑥𐑳𐑕𐑑 𐑥𐑰𐑯 𐑞𐑨𐑑 𐑞𐑨𐑮 𐑦𐑟 𐑩 𐑕𐑰𐑒𐑮𐑩𐑑
> ‧𐑖𐑱𐑝𐑦𐑩𐑪 𐑱𐑡𐑩𐑯𐑑 𐑦𐑯𐑕𐑲𐑛 𐑞𐑩 ‧𐑨𐑐𐑩𐑤
> 𐑷𐑮𐑜𐑩𐑯𐑲𐑟𐑱𐑖𐑩𐑯. 𐑘𐑱!
> Hope this is legible––am having difficulty
> with Shavian fonts at the moment. 𐑐
> And by the way, what did Wilde say?
>
> ‧𐑛𐑖
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>

Svetlana Alexievich, from Belarus, was awarded this year's Nobel Prize in Literature. There were of course complaints. What? No American this year either? And from Russia (she writes in Russian): She is anti-Russian! Why was not one of our more respected writers chosen? Even a spokesman from the opposition (of which there are a few still allowed to express themselves, sometimes) who declared:


𐑞𐑦𐑕 𐑐𐑮𐑲𐑟 𐑖𐑴𐑟 𐑞𐑨𐑑 𐑔𐑩 ·𐑯𐑴𐑚𐑧𐑤 ·𐑒𐑩𐑥𐑦𐑑𐑰 𐑒𐑳𐑯𐑕𐑦𐑛𐑩𐑮𐑟 𐑕𐑴𐑖𐑩𐑤 𐑒𐑪𐑯𐑕𐑩𐑒𐑢𐑦𐑯𐑕 𐑥𐑴𐑮 𐑦𐑥𐑐𐑷𐑮𐑑𐑩𐑯𐑑 𐑞𐑨𐑯 𐑤𐑦𐑑𐑩𐑮𐑨𐑮𐑦 𐑒𐑢𐑭𐑤𐑩𐑑𐑰𐑟.


To which that astute observer of human failings, Bart Simpson, would say: well, duh! The Swedish Academy have frequently done so, and find justification (when they choose to) in Alfred Nobel’s instructions.


Their stated motivation this year was recognition of her ‘polyphonic writings’, whatever that can mean. The author herself has remarked that she had attempted to record the ‘Rise and fall, but lingering prescence, of homo sovieticus’, and points out that ‘Russia has changed, but despises itself for changing’.


‘𐑲 𐑮𐑴𐑑 𐑩𐑚𐑬𐑑 𐑞𐑩 𐑐𐑨𐑕𐑑 𐑚𐑳𐑑 𐑦𐑑 𐑮𐑩𐑝𐑰𐑤𐑛 𐑦𐑑𐑕𐑧𐑤𐑓 𐑑𐑩 𐑚𐑰
𐑞𐑩 𐑓𐑘𐑵𐑗𐑩𐑮. (𐑪𐑝 ·𐑮𐑳𐑖𐑩)’


The Swedish Academy especially called attention to her book “Voices from Utopia” in which


‘𐑖𐑰 𐑧𐑕𐑑𐑨𐑚𐑤𐑩𐑖𐑦𐑟 𐑩 𐑥𐑪𐑯𐑘𐑵𐑥𐑧𐑯𐑑𐑩𐑤 𐑨𐑯𐑛 𐑦𐑤𐑵𐑠𐑩𐑯𐑤𐑧𐑕 𐑒𐑮𐑪𐑯𐑦𐑒𐑩𐑤 𐑪𐑝 𐑩 𐑕𐑴𐑖𐑩𐑤 𐑕𐑦𐑕𐑑𐑩𐑥 𐑞𐑨𐑑 𐑢𐑭𐑟 𐑛𐑩𐑒𐑤𐑨𐑮𐑛 𐑛𐑧𐑛 𐑚𐑳𐑑 𐑕𐑑𐑦𐑤 𐑤𐑦𐑝𐑟.’


There, a little culture doesn’t hurt, does it?

𐑛𐑖..

In view of this past week's events, perhaps an opportune time to quote Voltaire:


“𐑞𐑴𐑟 𐑙𐑵 𐑒𐑨𐑯 𐑥𐑱𐑒 𐑘𐑵 𐑚𐑩𐑤𐑰𐑝 𐑨𐑚𐑕𐑳𐑮𐑛𐑦𐑑𐑰𐑟 𐑒𐑨𐑯 𐑥𐑱𐑒 𐑘𐑵 𐑒𐑩𐑥𐑦𐑑 𐑩𐑑𐑮𐑪𐑕𐑦𐑑𐑰𐑟”


Yes, I still swap 𐑙 and 𐑣. Sue me.



·𐑛𐑖

Hello.

I found message from John Burrows (Sep 30, 2005)

And tryed to put the Shavian letterns instead of the names.
Please correct me, if I was wrong.

----
For letters we have:
Jackdaws love my big sphinx of quartz.
(shorter than ' The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog’)

For vowels:
who | would | know | aught | of | art | must | learn | act | and | then | take | his | ease
ooze | wool | oak | awe | on | ah | up | err | ash | ado | egg | age | if | eat
𐑵 | 𐑫 | 𐑴 | 𐑷 | 𐑪 | 𐑭 | 𐑳 | 𐑻 | 𐑨 | 𐑩 | 𐑧 | 𐑱 | 𐑦 | 𐑰

Diphthongs:
fear | the | poor | outside | the | door
ear | | wool+array | out – ice (loud? ride?) | | or
𐑽 | | 𐑫 + 𐑼 | 𐑬 - 𐑲 | | 𐑹

beware | of | power | avoid | desire
eat – air (ear?) | | out+err (loud?) | oil | ice+array
𐑽 𐑺 | | 𐑬 + 𐑻 | 𐑶 | 𐑲 𐑼
----

Additionally, can somebody write the whole these sentences
in the Shavian alphabet? (I'm not English speaking, only English reading :)
1: Jackdaws love my big sphinx of quartz.
2: The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.
3: Who would know aught of art must learn, act and then take his ease.
4: Fear the poor outside the door.
5: Beware of power; avoid desire.

Is there a single phrase which contains all the shavian letters for
the English language?

For Esperanto I composed such one:
Flava Zeŭso dorlote publikigu mian edzecon. Ho eĥoŝanĝoj ĉiuĵaŭde.
𐑓𐑤𐑨𐑝𐑨 ·𐑟𐑧𐑘𐑕𐑩 𐑛𐑩𐑮𐑤𐑩𐑑𐑧 𐑐𐑪𐑚𐑤𐑦𐑒𐑦𐑜𐑪 𐑫𐑦𐑨𐑵 𐑧𐑞𐑧𐑔𐑩𐑵. 𐑣𐑩 𐑧𐑙𐑩𐑖𐑨𐑵𐑡𐑩𐑢 𐑗𐑦𐑪𐑠𐑨𐑘𐑛𐑧.

It's not of minimal length, but the goal was to put the paired letters nearby.

Thanks in advance.

--
Zmitro Lapcjonak

>>>>> "Z" == Zmitro Lapcjonak writes:

[...]

Z> Is there a single phrase which contains all the shavian
Z> letters for the English language?

There are some phonetic "pangrams" (which vary for the dialects of
English):

𐑼𐑱𐑟 𐑝 𐑗𐑬𐑛𐑻-𐑣𐑱𐑑𐑦𐑙 𐑚𐑴𐑣𐑰𐑥𐑾𐑯𐑟 𐑓𐑽 𐑢𐑹𐑒,
𐑘𐑧𐑑 𐑑𐑶𐑤 𐑦𐑯 𐑺, 𐑢𐑭𐑑𐑻, 𐑓𐑲𐑮, 𐑯 𐑻𐑔,
𐑷𐑤 𐑓𐑹 𐑩 𐑒𐑳𐑐 𐑝 𐑒𐑪𐑓𐑰 𐑞𐑨𐑑 𐑩 𐑕𐑸𐑡𐑩𐑯𐑑 𐑚𐑮𐑵𐑛,
𐑖𐑫𐑼𐑤𐑦 𐑩 𐑐𐑤𐑧𐑠𐑼 𐑓𐑿 𐑓𐑹𐑜𐑴.

Arrays of chowder-hating Bohemians fear work,
yet toil in air, water, fire, and earth,
all for a cup of coffee that a sergeant brewed,
surely a pleasure few forgo.

Are those shy Eurasian footwear, cowboy chaps,
or jolly earthmoving headgear?
𐑸 𐑞𐑴𐑟 𐑖𐑲 𐑘𐑫𐑼𐑱𐑠𐑩𐑯 𐑓𐑫𐑑𐑢𐑺, 𐑒𐑶𐑚𐑬
𐑗𐑨𐑐𐑕, 𐑹 𐑡𐑭𐑤𐑰 𐑻𐑔𐑥𐑵𐑝𐑦𐑙 𐑣𐑧𐑛𐑜𐑽?
ɑː ð əʊ z ʃ ɑɪ j ʊə ˈr ɛɪ ʒ ə n ˈf ʊ t w ɛə ˈk æʊ b ɔɪ
tʃ æ p s ɔː ˈdʒ ɒ l iː ˈɜː θ ˌm uː v ɪ ŋ ˈh ɛ d g ɪə

With tenure, Suzie’d have all the more leisure for yachting, but
her publications are no good.
𐑢𐑦𐑞 𐑑𐑧𐑯𐑘𐑻, ·𐑕𐑵𐑟𐑰’𐑛 𐑣𐑨𐑝 𐑷𐑤 𐑞 𐑥𐑹 𐑤𐑧𐑠𐑼 𐑓𐑹 𐑘𐑪𐑑𐑦𐑙, 𐑚𐑳𐑑
𐑣𐑻 𐑐𐑳𐑚𐑤𐑦𐑒𐑱𐑖𐑩𐑯𐑟 𐑸 𐑯𐑴 𐑜𐑫𐑛.
wɪð ˈtɛnjə ˈsuːˌziːd hæv ɔːl ð mɔː ˈlɛʒə fə ˈjɒtɪŋ bət
hɜː ˌpəblɪˈkɛɪʃənz ə nəʊ gʊd

Sheathing his sword, the big private helped an adult commonwealth
refugee.
𐑖𐑰𐑞𐑦𐑙 𐑣𐑦𐑟 𐑕𐑹𐑛, 𐑞 𐑚𐑦𐑜 𐑐𐑮𐑲𐑝𐑩𐑑 𐑣𐑧𐑤𐑐𐑑 𐑩𐑯 𐑨𐑛𐑳𐑤𐑑 𐑒𐑭𐑥𐑩𐑯𐑢𐑧𐑤𐑔
𐑮𐑧𐑓𐑿𐑡𐑰.

--
Sergei

A frivolous alternative for the otherwise excellent


"Who would know aught of art must learn, act, and then take his ease"


based on a slightly different principle––that of distinguishing between what
might be called, for lack of a better term, 'plain' vowels and diphthongs as
opposed to those that could be called 'complex' — that is, those susceptible
to variable pronunciations by different speech communities in words where
a vowel is followed by an orthographic 'r'. This might be helpful for someone
not accustomed to hearing English spoken on a regular basis nor familiar with
the eccentric relationship of English spelling to pronunciation.

Plain:


Now, a few goals: at all times stay calm, fret not, feel joy, keep fit –– & good luck, too!
𐑬 𐑩 𐑿 𐑴 𐑨 𐑷 𐑲 𐑱 𐑭 𐑧 𐑪 𐑾 𐑶 𐑰 𐑦 𐑫 𐑳 𐑵


In view of the time of year, perhaps a basic list of new year's resolutions as well.


hæpı nʲu jɪɹ
·𐑛𐑖

Now for complex, vowel-combinations with ‘r’.


Remember, we’re here where there were surely four warranted cures for our tired startled mayors.
𐑼 𐑽 𐑻 𐑺 𐑹 𐑸


The intention of the nonsense sentence above is to display the full range of possiblities that can occur when a vowel is subject to some form of modification by an immediately following ‘r’. The Shaw Alphabet as published in the bilingual edition of 'Androcles and the Lion' includes special letters only for the vowel-sounds found in 'fear, fair, fur, for, far, and refer' but not the others, which may not be necessary anyway for many people.


But a good dictionary can confirm what one can come to suspect—that there are in fact
a greater range of sounds in use than is commonly believed. A survey will reveal that every dictionary has its own set of symbols to identify what it considers to be the most important sound-values, and none of them agree entirely. While this is a competitive feature, it does indicate also that each publisher has acquired a slightly different perception of how our language—as best as can be determined—is actually spoken.


Remember, we’re here where there were surely four warranted cures for our tired startled mayors.
əɹ iɹ ɪɹ ɛɹ æɹ ɜɹ jʊɹ oʊɹ ɒɹ jʊɹ ɔɹ aʊɹ aɪɹ ɑɹ eɪˈɹ


An attempt at analysis offers the above results, using a condensed composite of symbols from several dictionaries, with examples chosen to illustrate the variety of r-vowels available. The ‘ɹ’ is to be understood as any alternative in use: a clearly sounded 'r' typical of rhotic speech, a softer form that can glide into a schwa (an 'uh'-sound, shown as ə), or in non-rhotic speech only a schwa, or nothing at all. In the latter case however the missing r-sound usually results in a lengthened vowel and in this way functions much like a diacritic.

Converting the above string of dictionary symbols to the Shaw Alphabet produces something like that shown below. Not everyone probably, and perhaps not anyone today might need (or want) such a wide variety, but when someone does use the full range the language is enriched, or so I think when I hear someone like Sir David Attenborough remind us of the diversity of life on earth.


Remember, we’re here where there were surely four warranted cures for our tired startled mayors.
𐑩𐑮 𐑰𐑮 𐑦𐑮 𐑧𐑮 𐑨𐑮 𐑳𐑮 𐑵𐑮 𐑴𐑮 𐑪𐑮 𐑦𐑵𐑮 𐑷𐑮 𐑬𐑮 𐑲𐑮 𐑷𐑮 𐑱𐑩𐑮


This may look like a solution only for speakers with a wide range of vowels who sound ‘r’s in their speech, but it needn't be. It's simply an option for those who feel it could serve some worthwhile purpose—that of greater flexibility perhaps. One need only use what one wanted, As for the post-vowel 𐑮, it should have the same function as the ɹ above—a letter to represent any post-vowel preference. It could possibly avoid confusion and perhaps help meld the usage of the separate native-speech communities.


𐑢𐑧𐑤, 𐑑𐑵 𐑥𐑳𐑗 𐑢𐑳𐑯𐑕 𐑩𐑜𐑱𐑯—𐑕𐑪𐑮𐑦

·𐑛𐑖

As boldly stated earlier:


"The Shaw Alphabet as published in the bilingual edition of 'Androcles and the Lion' includes special
letters only for the vowel-sounds found in 'fear, fair, fur, for, far, and refer' but not the others, which
may anyway not be necessary for many people."


Oops—the final example, intended to illustrate where the letter 𐑼 is used, should not
have been 'refer' (its second syllable) but instead the second syllable of 'further', as also
in 'better butter'.


. . . . . . . . .


To continue however unperturbed if embarrassed the exploration of the effect of a
subsequent 'r', even if only historical (that is, perhaps not even always sounded),
consider the following:




dictionary explanation
vowel + r Chambers Longman (IPA)


he -- her lean -- learn ē > ûr i: > ɜ:/ɜ:ɹ
bid -- bird skit -- skirt i > ûr ɪ > ɜ:/ɜ:ɹ
head -- heard ten -- tern e > ûr ɛ > ɜ:/ɜ:ɹ
hut -- hurt bun -- burn u > ûr ʌ > ɜ:/ɜ:ɹ
won -- worn ton -- torn u > ör/ōr ʌ > ɔ:/ɔ:ɹ/o:ɹ
had -- hard mat -- mart æ > är æ > ɑ:/ɑ:ɹ
shot -- short was -- wars o > ör ɒ/ɑ > ɔ:/ɔ:ɹ






Interesting?


We who first learn to speak our language and somewhat later to master the written
code that is meant to represent speech may not always be aware of the pitfalls involved
in visual interpretation, unless we had trouble learning to read. Someone learning
English by reading newspapers or their online versions will probably stumble now and
then by expecting a particular sound only to discover it should be another. As there are
more sounds than letters (in most languages) then some means had to be devised in
order to indicate the full range of sounds, and combinations of letters are a (not always
entirely consistent) solution. The Shavian alphabet is another.


𐑐𐑪𐑯𐑛𐑩𐑮 𐑪𐑯—.

·𐑛𐑖