hF evrIwun
enI nMz abQt /ulekses?
SI hazant pOstad fP a wFal.
SUd wI prasId wiT H dis kuSan yn H nV kIbPd mApiN?
rigRdz, .pYl /vI.
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--- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, "paul vandenbrink"
<pvandenbrink11@h...> wrote:
> Hi Alexis
> It sounds like your accent allows you to easily distinguish
> the sounds of the Shavian "Ah", "On" and "Awe" letters.
> You are very lucky.
> Some accents in America don't make much distinction, between
> any of these sounds. The distinction is not considered significant
> in thos regions,
> so people don't even notice the odd variation. It's called the
> cot/caught distinction.
>
> The "Pahk the Cah" thing is much more common in South England.
>
> Shavian Spelling is pretty straight forward. There are not a lot of
> spelling rules.
> You write the words as you hear them pronounced.
> The consonant sounds are pretty constant across most accents.
> There is a bit of variation in how people use the Vowels, tho.
> You just try and use the same letters consistently.
> I have a few rules of thumb that apply to my accent for the writing
> of vowels, but they apply mostly to situations where I do not hear
> any distinction between the pronunciation of 2 different Shaw Vowel
> letters.
>
> By the way, the Shavian Vowel letters were expanded to handle one
the
> biggest differences between British and American style
> pronunciation. The Rhotic versus Non-Rhotic Vowel Shift.
> As we said previously, many of the Accents in South England (Also
> Australia) swallow their "R"s if the "R" comes after a vowel.
> As you said, the "Pahk the Cah" thing.
> So as a convention, both the
> R deprived people and the rest of us, write those sounds with R
> letters of Shavian.
> The Non-Rhotic English assign a complex vowel sound to these
letters,
> and we pronounce them as a "R" vowel sound.
>
> These 6 r-sounds are very common in English and very easy to
> recognize.
> 1. Array "D" vocalic "R" (i.e. farmer, forget, lawyer, turmoil,
> termites, Sir, kernel, her)
> 2. Err (Urge) "x" long or stresed vocalic "R"
> (i.e. burn, earn, fern,
> early, urge, world, girl, twirl, work)
> 3. Ear "W" "i+r" (i.e. here, tear, beer, mirror)
> 4. Are "R" "ah+r" (i.e. car, marsh, star, guitar, afar)
> 5. Or "P" "O+r" (i.e. more, for, store, george)
> 8. Air "X" "e+r" (i.e. air, dare, care, lair, stare, tear)
>
> Any of the more complex English vocalic r sounds.
> (i.e. fire, destroyer, Mayor, bricklayer, hour, dour, lawyer (New
> York Pronunciation) cower, sour, tire, player) are all treated
> as a 2 letter
> combination in Shavian, with the second letter always being
> an "Array".
>
> Regards, Paul V.
>
> P.S. If you register in Ikonboard, you have more options, but I
> believe you can reply to an existing post, as long as you put
> something in the name field, even if you are not registered.
>
> The Shaw Chat section of the Ikon Board works much like Ghoti
Fingers
> as long as you have downloaded the Shaw San 2 font on to your
> Computer.
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>
> --- In shawalphabet@yahoogroups.com, AC <cshouse@o...> wrote:
> > Hi Paul,
> >
> > .make a lot of use of the Shaw Awe letter, too. (i.e. Long,
caught,
> > talk, All, dog, bog)
> >
> > All of those would use the AWE for me except bog, which would be
> the AH.
> > I spend some of my summers in Rhode Island and that Bean
Town "Pahk
> the
> > cah" thing comes out every now and again.
> >
> > As for your name,
> >
> > The emphasis is definitely on the LEK. the same with you-LISS-eez
> >
> > I like the name Ulysses. It would be pronounced you-lis-eez with
no
> > stress on lis.
> >
> > I will go over the rest of the "rules" you sent. Is there a page
> that
> > give you the "guidelines"?
> >
> > I will definitely check out the Ikonboard!
> >
> > "X" "e+r" (i.e. air, dare, care, lair, stare, barrel)
> >
> > Barrel doesn't belong in that group for me. I don't say BARE-
uhl,
> I say
> > BA-rel (as in ash, can't, rat)
> >
> > Alexis