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TAnks /HV. F nO v nan. F hOp V kAn fFnd wan.

bF H wE, hAv V lUkt At H /kwikskript kIbOrd drFvx uplOdid His wIkend? E trFd tM figjx it yt wiTyt sakses.

/rik ......<><

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F Am syrI t hIr HAt, /hV. unfPcanetlI, F nO v nO sFts HAt fit jP deskripSan, but F wil lUk arQnd n let V nO if F fFnd AnITiN. TANks fP hAviN it up n runiN wFl V kUd. it wuz fun.

----- Original Message -----
From: Hugh Birkenhead <mailto:h.birkenhead@...>
To: shavian@... <mailto:shavian@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [shavian] Shavian Board's Disappearance

Grik,

unfPcanatlI F woz rFt, H pravFdD v H webspEs F woz VziN hAz stopt its frI sxvis. >:(

His wil mIn F nId t fFnd anuHD frI webspEs pravFdD HAt alQz H Vs v CGI skriptiN; F wUd Vz Gb.t. GintDnet, mF pxsanal websFt hOst, but HE dM not alQ suc skriptiN.

if V nO v enI suc pravFdDz, plIz let mI nO, Az F hAv not fQnd enITiN jet! F wil kIp lUkiN HO.

GhV

----- Original Message -----
From: Flyfisher <mailto:geoflyfisher@...>
To: Shavian Group <mailto:shavian@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 10:12 PM
Subject: [shavian] Shavian Board's Disappearance

/hV,

ehnI nMz on H /SEvIan bOrd?

I looked up the Ikonboard program on the web and saw that it was a program that runs on a server.

Unfortunately, I do not have access to a server! All this high-speed access and I am forbidden to
host anything on the web!

For all,

The following is in Junior.ttf, a form of Quickscript whose font can be downloaded from the Read_Alpahbet fonts. It was adapted from the nice Jerome font so that the characters do not touch. This makes it easier for me to read the Quickscript.

F ylO sY H nU listiN fOr a cOrdiN kIbOrd!

I will need some directions to see how that works!

Rick <><



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nO F hAvnt trFd H /kwikskript drFvD - F'm not muc v a fAn v /kwikskript - but F'l trF t fFnd tFm t hAv a lUk At it nunHales. it mFt bI v Vs t us /SEvIanz az wel.

H verI fAkt HAt HX R tM 'grMps' At Yl disapqnts mI verI muc indId...

bF H wE - kUd V dM mI a fEvD - kUd V tel mI hQ V wUd rFt H folOiN sentans:

"Foreword: The Restauranteur had to perfect his kitchen, as it could not go forward without a permit. He would not permit any old pervert trying to pervert the perfect nature of his merry little daughter Mary."

strEnJ sentans F nO, but it mEks sens t mI! :) TANks...

GhV

----- Original Message -----
From: Flyfisher <mailto:geoflyfisher@...>
To: Shavian Group <mailto:shavian@...>
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 2:52 AM
Subject: Re: [shavian] Shavian Board's Disappearance

TAnks /HV. F nO v nan. F hOp V kAn fFnd wan.

bF H wE, hAv V lUkt At H /kwikskript kIbOrd drFvx uplOdid His wIkend? E trFd tM figjx it yt wiTyt sakses.

/rik ......<><

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I am sure that I am falling into a trap for Hugh, but here goes:

Foreword: The Restauranteur had to perfect his kitchen, as it could not go forward without a permit. He would not permit any old pervert trying to pervert the perfect nature of his merry little daughter Mary.

My mid Ohio (with Kentucky roots) rendering: (avoiding as many of the r ligatures as I can)

fOrwad: H /retrantar hAd tM parfekt' hiz kicin, Az it kUd not gO fOrward wiTQt a parmit. hI wUd not parmit enI Old parvart trFiN tM parvart H parfekt nEcar v hiz mErI lital dotar /mErI.

bF H wE, F did diskavar F waz VziN y fOr Q... (Ups!)

/rik




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I am sure that I am falling into a trap for Hugh, but here goes:

Foreword: The Restauranteur had to perfect his kitchen, as it could not go forward without a permit. He would not permit any old pervert trying to pervert the perfect nature of his merry little daughter Mary.

My mid Ohio (with Kentucky roots) rendering: (avoiding as many of the r ligatures as I can)

fOrwad: H /retrantar hAd tM parfekt' hiz kicin, Az it kUd not gO fOrward wiTQt a parmit. hI wUd not parmit enI Old parvart trFiN tM parvart H parfekt nEcar v hiz mErI lital dotar /mErI.

bF H wE, F did diskavar F waz VziN y fOr Q... (Ups!)

/rik

Second try.




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Ohh, I wanna try too!!

fPwxd: H /restrYntIr hAd t pxfekt hiz kitcen, Az it kUd not gO fPwRd wiTQt a pxmit. hI wUd not pxmit enI Old pxvxt trFiN t pxvxt H pxfekt nEtcx v hiz merI lital dYtx /mArI.

I am from near Boston, but have lived near Chicago for ten years now. What do you think?

----- Original Message -----
From: Flyfisher <mailto:geoflyfisher@...>
To: Shavian Group <mailto:shavian@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 4:47 PM
Subject: [shavian] Falling Into A Trap!


I am sure that I am falling into a trap for Hugh, but here goes:

Foreword: The Restauranteur had to perfect his kitchen, as it could not go forward without a permit. He would not permit any old pervert trying to pervert the perfect nature of his merry little daughter Mary.

My mid Ohio (with Kentucky roots) rendering: (avoiding as many of the r ligatures as I can)

fOrwad: H /retrantar hAd tM parfekt' hiz kicin, Az it kUd not gO fOrward wiTQt a parmit. hI wUd not parmit enI Old parvart trFiN tM parvart H parfekt nEcar v hiz mErI lital dotar /mErI.

bF H wE, F did diskavar F waz VziN y fOr Q... (Ups!)

/rik





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Ok, some stuff went terribly wrong. The attachment was empty. I have recently posted a new message to the group. If you are not a member, you can sign up in no time (for you are already a Shavian member) and read the message through the website.

F hAv nO FdW, bat it mFt Az wel wYrk wiH SEvWn, YlHO F dYnt hAv Ani sapYrt bilt in tM dIl wiH H ligatVrz. samwyn mast bI intDestid Inaf tM tEk a lUk And fiks H problemz.

ranembD, His iz a test vDSan, And stil hAs Inaf bagz HAt nId fiksiN.

/EvQt stym.

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Ewout Stam <teraiten@... <mailto:teraiten@...> >
Aan: shavian@... <mailto:shavian@...> <shavian@... <mailto:shavian@...> >
Datum: zondag 3 maart 2002 20:10
Onderwerp: [shavian] Typing Shavian has never been easier!


In the Quickscript group on http://groups.yahoo.com/Read_Alphabet we have been discussing about a keyboard driver that would simplify typing in Quickscript, without having to use that shift-key. Take a look at the discussions through the website under the subject 'Macbeth'.

Please don't ignore this, this is rather revolutionary stuff for the Shavian and Quickscript Computer world! Give it a look. I don't have much time to explain everything, but I'm sure you can figure it out yourself, if not, others may want to help.

Anyway, here is the message I posted to the Quickscipt group (please install the Jerome Font first):
________________________________

Ok, cuz no-one has tried to create a driver yet, I have skipped my homework and created this. It is far from perfect, and could use some fixes. You only need the normal Jerome font and www.tavultesoft.com <http://www.tavultesoft.com> 's Keyman, the Win 3.11 version, which does work under win '95+ . I dunno about other operating systems. http://www.tavultesoft.com/keyman/downloads/keyman32.exe is the url of the program.

You will type in a roman reform scheme, based on Newromaji (it's not really 100% real Newromaji, but anyway, it works)

Take a look into the .kmn file with a text editor to get an idea how it works.

His iz an egzympal tekst F tFpt wiH H kIbYrd-drFvD F hAve Jast mEd. it kAn stil Vz sam fiksiN, bat At lIst its redi fYr sam eksperimentiN.

I have never typed so fast in QS. I'm not even a fluent reader/writer in kwikskript, but this is really going to be interesting.

This file can use some fixing, but you can also come up with a different scheme of roman writing that gets converted into QS. Perhaps somebody can create a more efficient scheme. I have put c under c, x under S, u under M and q under N because those sounds occur quite often and a digraph would not be needed, 'cuz there were still some letters left.

AND perhaps we will one day have a driver that automatically converts text to proper senior Quickscript without the user actually paying attention to it.

I have posted a similar message to the Shavian group.

/EvQt


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I have been having fun with the keyboard driver Ewout told us about.
It helps me to type faster. I have uploaded the first chapter of a
favorite book to the files/texts part of the board. It is called
Holes Ch 1.

Ewout and I are going separate ways about the contents of the
driver. He is favoring a newromanji keyboard. I am just modifying
the shavian keyboard so that it seems more natural to me for quickly
typing. It also reduces the number of capital letters
significantly.

The mapping I am experimenting with includes the following:

"s" + "h" > "S"
"n" + "g" > "N"
"z" + "z" > "Z"
"j" > "J"
"y" > "j"
"a" + "a" > "A"
"o" + "o" > "U"
"o" + "w" > "Q"
"a" + "h" > "y"
"e" + "a" > "I"
"a" + "i" > "E"
"I" > "F"
"o" + "u" > "M"
"o" + "y" > "q"
"a" + "w" > "Y"
"o" + "r" > "P"
"e" + "r" > "x"
"U" > "V"

But the good news about the driver is that you can modify it anyway
you like for your own tastes and preferences.

I plan to get a page out on the web describing how this can be done
in the next couple weeks - but after Thesis and finals.

Again, please take a look at the "Holes" text. I am open to lots of
criticism on my spelling methods. They take a little from
quickscript and mostly are from shavian.

Rick




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F hAv not trFd it jet, but F plAn on giviN it a trF His wIkend. F Am lUkiN fPwRd t it, HO F dOnt mFnd tFpiN nPmalI.

----- Original Message -----
From: Ewout Stam <mailto:teraiten@...>
To: shavian@... <mailto:shavian@...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [shavian] Typing Shavian has never been easier!

Ok, some stuff went terribly wrong. The attachment was empty. I have recently posted a new message to the group. If you are not a member, you can sign up in no time (for you are already a Shavian member) and read the message through the website.

F hAv nO FdW, bat it mFt Az wel wYrk wiH SEvWn, YlHO F dYnt hAv Ani sapYrt bilt in tM dIl wiH H ligatVrz. samwyn mast bI intDestid Inaf tM tEk a lUk And fiks H problemz.

ranembD, His iz a test vDSan, And stil hAs Inaf bagz HAt nId fiksiN.

/EvQt stym.

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Ewout Stam <teraiten@... <mailto:teraiten@...> >
Aan: shavian@... <mailto:shavian@...> <shavian@... <mailto:shavian@...> >
Datum: zondag 3 maart 2002 20:10
Onderwerp: [shavian] Typing Shavian has never been easier!


In the Quickscript group on http://groups.yahoo.com/Read_Alphabet we have been discussing about a keyboard driver that would simplify typing in Quickscript, without having to use that shift-key. Take a look at the discussions through the website under the subject 'Macbeth'.

Please don't ignore this, this is rather revolutionary stuff for the Shavian and Quickscript Computer world! Give it a look. I don't have much time to explain everything, but I'm sure you can figure it out yourself, if not, others may want to help.

Anyway, here is the message I posted to the Quickscipt group (please install the Jerome Font first):

________________________________

Ok, cuz no-one has tried to create a driver yet, I have skipped my homework and created this. It is far from perfect, and could use some fixes. You only need the normal Jerome font and www.tavultesoft.com <http://www.tavultesoft.com> 's Keyman, the Win 3.11 version, which does work under win '95+ . I dunno about other operating systems. http://www.tavultesoft.com/keyman/downloads/keyman32.exe is the url of the program.

You will type in a roman reform scheme, based on Newromaji (it's not really 100% real Newromaji, but anyway, it works)

Take a look into the .kmn file with a text editor to get an idea how it works.

His iz an egzympal tekst F tFpt wiH H kIbYrd-drFvD F hAve Jast mEd. it kAn stil Vz sam fiksiN, bat At lIst its redi fYr sam eksperimentiN.

I have never typed so fast in QS. I'm not even a fluent reader/writer in kwikskript, but this is really going to be interesting.

This file can use some fixing, but you can also come up with a different scheme of roman writing that gets converted into QS. Perhaps somebody can create a more efficient scheme. I have put c under c, x under S, u under M and q under N because those sounds occur quite often and a digraph would not be needed, 'cuz there were still some letters left.

AND perhaps we will one day have a driver that automatically converts text to proper senior Quickscript without the user actually paying attention to it.

I have posted a similar message to the Shavian group.

/EvQt



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I think if someone could come up with a way of typing the individual
sounds like "t,h" for thoth (thigh) and "t,h,e" for they, it would help
roman alphabet users to both think and read in shavian as they type.
hmm, maybe what we need is a forty key keyboard. :)

Star the lurker

--- geoflyfisher <geoflyfisher@...> wrote:
> I have been having fun with the keyboard driver Ewout told us about.
>
> It helps me to type faster. I have uploaded the first chapter of a
> favorite book to the files/texts part of the board. It is called
> Holes Ch 1.
>
> Ewout and I are going separate ways about the contents of the
> driver. He is favoring a newromanji keyboard. I am just modifying
> the shavian keyboard so that it seems more natural to me for quickly
> typing. It also reduces the number of capital letters
> significantly.
>
> The mapping I am experimenting with includes the following:
>
> "s" + "h" > "S"
> "n" + "g" > "N"
> "z" + "z" > "Z"
> "j" > "J"
> "y" > "j"
> "a" + "a" > "A"
> "o" + "o" > "U"
> "o" + "w" > "Q"
> "a" + "h" > "y"
> "e" + "a" > "I"
> "a" + "i" > "E"
> "I" > "F"
> "o" + "u" > "M"
> "o" + "y" > "q"
> "a" + "w" > "Y"
> "o" + "r" > "P"
> "e" + "r" > "x"
> "U" > "V"
>
> But the good news about the driver is that you can modify it anyway
> you like for your own tastes and preferences.
>
> I plan to get a page out on the web describing how this can be done
> in the next couple weeks - but after Thesis and finals.
>
> Again, please take a look at the "Holes" text. I am open to lots of
> criticism on my spelling methods. They take a little from
> quickscript and mostly are from shavian.
>
> Rick
>
>
>
>


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