Hi Philip
My Mistake. I thought Hugh owned the site, as well the forums.
It would be nice to keep the forums. Do you need contributions to
keep it afloat.
I use it a lot.
Please consider yourself included in laudatory comment from one and
all.
Regards, Paul V.
--- In shavian@..., "Philip Newton" <philip.newton@g...>
wrote:
> On 23 Oct 2003 at 21:31, Joseph Smith wrote:
>
> > Who owns shavian.org,
>
> I do.
>
> > and why is it so uninspiring?
>
> Because I'm not that great on providing content and nobody else has
> volunteered so far.
>
> I initially posted to this group about it saying I'd make the
domain
> available but others would have to provide content. So far, nobody
has,
> so it's just a link list and some forums where people can talk in
and
> about Shavian.
>
> (The forums will, unfortunately, have to come down soon because
they're
> taking up more space than I've been paying for.)
>
> > That should be our central hub, and yet it is a boring grey slate
> > with not so much as a slither or shavian text!
>
> Did you look at the forums (
> http://shavian.org/hugh/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi )? I admit I
haven't
> gone there for ages, but I'm fairly sure there is text in Shavian
> there.
>
> > Can't we either get it going, or get a new website?
>
> Remember that we're all volunteers around here. This "we" includes
> yourself.
>
> If you want to provide content, you're more than welcome to; the
> contact address is listed near the top of the Shavian web site.
> (Including "Shavian" in the subject of the email would help so I
don't
> accidentally delete it amidst the volumes of spam I receive.)
>
> Don't expect other people to do stuff. (I don't, either, at least
as
> regards the web site. So I live with its simply being a list of
links.)
>
> > Also, does anyone have a website/page all in shavian?
>
> Did you have a look at some of the links? For example, Scott
Harrison
> has some documents in Shavian on his website (or had, last time I
> checked -- I can't reach his server right now). Simon Barne, IIRC,
used
> to have advertisement spoofs converted to Shavian (but his site is
> apparently empty, now).
>
> Feel free to make your own!
>
> > Or perhaps a unicode editor (all those ampersand/hash/semicolons
pee
> > me off)?
>
> I've used UniPad ( http://www.unipad.org/ ), but that only lets you
> edit 1000-character documents unless you either (a) register it for
$99
> or (b) live with only starting it for 10 minutes at a time (since
the
> 1000-character limit doesn't kick in until then).
>
> You don't necessarily need a Unicode editor for Shavian, though.
> Actually, this is a tricky situation, since you have to decide on
which
> encoding to use; I would venture that most people have fonts that
> include only "ASCII Shavian", which you can type in a normal editor
> (e.g. "SEvWn" for "Shavian"). I've seen fonts which make use of the
> code points in the ConScript Unicode Registry (I think Scott used
> those), but not everyone has them. Then there's the matter that the
> CSUR Shavian assignment is considered obsolete, as far as I know,
since
> the Unicode Consortium has allocated real live code points to
Shavian --
> but they're in the Secondary Multilingual Plane (Plane 1), which
isn't
> supported by all operating systems or applications, let alone by
many
> fonts yet (I imagine).
>
> > I want to build a website (got the space reserved) to put up this
> > standard, but if you know of anything that might help, please tell
> > me.
>
> If you have stuff about Shavian, you're welcome to host it on
> shavian.org; this applies to anyone in this group.
>
> My only condition is that you keep the space use to a reasonable
> amount. I'm currently paying for 10 MB of space and I'd prefer not
to
> get close to that. (The account is currently using more than that,
> which is why the forums have got to go, unfortunately. I'm also
using
> around 6 MB for personal stuff related to conlangs at the moment.)
>
> I know that's not very much, but I'm not currently prepared to pay
more
> for the account as I don't have *that* much spare cash. If any of
you
> want to chip in, that would be much appreciated -- for example,
with
> the host I'm using, 50 MB cost $83 a year, 100 MB cost $155 a year,
and
> 300 MB cost $299 a year. I'm currently paying $36 a year, so
somebody
> else would have to come up with the difference (or at least most of
it)
> for me to be willing to upgrade.
>
> Or you can start a competing site at a different domain if you
want.
> Heck, host it on Tripod or GeoCities for free (and live with ad
> banners).
>
> But please keep it updated yourself; Shavian sites seem to have
this
> habit of disappearing after a year or three.
>
> I'd love to see more and diverse content on shavian.org, but I
don't
> have the skill, time, or inclination to produce it myself, so I've
been
> depending on you all. He who complaineth about there being no
content,
> let him submit the first document. (And he who submitteth much
data,
> let him open his own web site or help pay for the space. Sorry I
can't
> offer more than this at the moment, but TANSTAAFL.)
>
> Cheers,
> Philip
> --
> Philip Newton <Philip.Newton@g...>
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