Hi Joseph & Carl
I think besides the minimal vowel sounds of Schwa and the much rarer
shortened short i, there is also the unstressed "er" sound "array".
So by your Logic of alternating stress, DEnJ/DrEnJ is a possible
pronunciation.
I tend to favor DrEnJ over arEnJ because it sounds a little closer
to the way I would say it. But since I would recognise both as valid
when I hear them, I would try and write it as arEnJ. Good to go with
the simpler spelling.
Regards, Paul V.
P.S. Carl Do you want a list of the Roman letter to Shaw mappings
that we use in ths Shaw Keyboard fonts. Or actual Key codes.
P.P.S. Congratulations on getting some one interested. Most people
just don't get it! Uphill battle. Need to have more sample matter.
I have to make up some pamphlets.
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--- In shavian@..., "Joseph Smith" <stetsdigs@h...>
wrote:
> Wow! It seems that you've found a whole load, but I'll take them
on
> board for certain. Thanks.
>
> How about an online news site instead of a newspaper, for now?
This
> way there would always be something new, and the makers of the
webite
> would have no need to think up content. It would be the first rung
on
> the ladder to a daily paper. What do you think?
>
> I was under the impression that schwa was an unstressed vowel
(with
> short i) and that English had a natural rhythm so that two
stressed
> syllables did not stand next to on another. This rule seems to
hold
> good (except foreign words and compounds). This is why I think a
word
> like 'arrange' has 'a' at the beginning and not 'x' or 'X'.
>
> I do intend to update the wordlist (I am inputting your spellings
on
> the list on my computer) and intend to put it on the net.
> Unfortunately I can't get unicode working well enough to edit or
type
> in it, so I guess it'll have to be font-based.
>
> The structure of my site is made, and I am writing a short article
> about the new architecture and sculpture in Manchester. (Also have
> someone new interested in Shavian by way of telling them about
what
> I'm doing, so that is good news.)
>
> Thanks
> Joseph
>
>
> --- In shavian@..., "paul vandenbrink"
> <pvandenbrink@s...> wrote:
> > Hi Joseph
> > I found quite a few more divergent spellings in your list of
1000
> > English words in Shaw.
> > hC iz SI TrM dI.
> >
> > capital kApitl -> kApetal
> > captain kAptin -> kaptan
> > carry -> kXI
> >
> >
> > character -> kXaktD
> >
> > child -> cFald
> > children -> cildren
> >
> >
> > circle sxkl -> sxkul
> >
> >
> > colony kolanI -> kYlanI
> >
> > column kolam -> kYlam
> >
> > common koman -> kYman
> >
> > compare kampX -> kumpX
> > complete kamplIt ->kumplIt
> > condition kandiSan -> kundiSan
> > connect kanekt -> kunekt
> > consider kansidD -> kunsidD
> >
> > contain kantEn -> kuntEn
> >
> > continue kantinV -> kuntinV
> > control kantrOl -> kuntrOl
> >
> > cool kMl -> kMal
> > copy kopI -> kYpI
> >
> > cotton kotn -> kotan
> >
> > cross kros -> krYs
> >
> >
> > decimal desimal -> desamal
> >
> > design dizFn -> dIsFn
> > determine ditxmin -> dItDmAn
> > develop divelap
> > dictionary dikSanrI -> dikSunXI
> >
> > difficult difikalt ->difakYlt
> >
> > division diviZan -> daviZan
> >
> > dog dog -> dYg
> > dollar dolD -> dYlD
> >
> > double dubl -> dubal
> >
> > during djUDiN -> dxiN
> >
> > Regards, Paul V.
> >
> > P.S. The long term goal for Shavian is to replace T.O. in at
least
> > one newspaper.
> > P.P.S. A good rule to remember is that the Schwa (Ado) is just
half
> > a vowel, and even though it can start a stand-alone syllable or
> even
> > end a syllable, it will never sticks two consonants together
> > (C+Schwa+C)
> > to make a closed syllable.
> > P.P.P.S. Are you going to upgrade your wordlist?
> >
> > ____________________attached________________________________
> >
> > --- In shavian@..., "Joseph Smith" <stetsdigs@h...>
> > wrote:
> > > How can we move forward?
> > >
> > > What do people see as the long term goals for Shavian?
> > >
> > > How do we achieve those goals?
> > >
> > > What obstacles are in the way? and how do we remove those
> > obstacles?
> > >
> > > Have you a wishlist for Shavian in the coming
weeks/months/years?
> > >
> > > What are you doing right now to get more out of Shavian?
> > >
> > > Can we do more?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Joseph
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