Do we even need a standard spelling? Middle and Early modern English
didn't use them, in fact the King James Version of the Bible had to be
revised twice when English spelling was standardized. I dare say that
what even brought the English language to the point of the neccesity
of replacing the orthography is that we standardized our spelling
right after the phonemes shifted, giving us spellings like 'ough' with
multiple pronounciations. Without the standardization, I've heard,
things can be hard to understand. I'm a big fan of the original
edition of the King James, the one without the standard spellings, and
I understand it perfectly. If we're too stupid to use non-standard
spellings, what are we doing with a non-standard alphabet (or three,
now (well, two and an abjad))?
If the phonemes shifted before, then they can certainly shift again,
and then Shavian would have to be replaced. Without standard
spellings, spellings remain linked to the phonemes alone. That could
have saved the TO from ruin.
-- In shavian@..., "paul vandenbrink" <pvandenbrink@s...>
wrote:
> Any program you write would have to use a dictionary or a list of
> exceptions, at the very least.
>
> I do have a set of rules that I use to make make Shavian spelling
> consistent with Standard American pronunciation.
>
> I guess it all depends if you want to use the Androcles Standard or
> something more uptodate.
>
>
> Regards, Paul V.
>
> P.S. It is probably better to use rules plus an exception list, to
> allow your program to work however haphazardly on unlisted words.
> Might want to run everything throug a spell-checker first.
>
> --- In shavian@..., "Philip Newton" <philip.newton@g...>
> wrote:
> > On 8 Jun 2004 at 22:05, shavianstar wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Everyone! How would you like a computer program to convert
> > > roman text to Shavian?
> >
> > I think Andy Callaway already provided one, but the more the
> merrier :)
> >
> > > Also, I need to know any serious changes to spelling that differ
> > > from DeMeyere's standard. Although I have been using Shavian on
> and
> > > off for the past three years, I have just joined this group.
> I'm
> > > finding the spelling unpleasently subjective, and I find that
> the
> > > way that people normally have spelled things greatly affects how
> > > they spell in Shavian. Do we have set standards on some
> spellings?
> >
> > This has been one of the points of contention recently on this
> group,
> > so you've touched a sore point. I don't think we have consensus on
> > spelling.
> >
> > I personally am on the side of Hugh, which is to use the spelling
> of
> > the American Heritage Dictionary (not AHD for Learners) as
> exemplified
> > e.g. on dictionary.com, whose pronunciation key is fairly close to
> the
> > speech of _Androcles_ and makes more distinctions than General
> American
> > does.
> >
> > Any program you write would have to use a dictionary, I imagine,
> since
> > I doubt rule-based spelling would get you very far. In which case
> > people who disagree with your spelling could simply replace or
> modify
> > the spelling dictionary your program uses.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Philip
> > --
> > Philip Newton <Philip.Newton@g...>
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