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if F mE Just stRt on a difDant topik fP a mOmant...

sumwun YlsO saJestid a wFl bAk HAt sumwun kriEt a font HAt lUkt gUd in H smYlD dont sFziz (i.e. 8-12 pqnt tekst). Yl H kurant /SEvian fonts R grEt fP 14 pqnt tekst P lRJD (TANks t H Anti-EliasiN wiH windOz 98), but wen V get dQn t smYlD sFziz, HE bikum mesi n unklC.

F dOnt undDstAnd H teknikAlitiz v font dizFn, sO F kynt iksplEn it, but F hAv nOtist HAt wen V ridVs H sFz v, sE, /Arial tekst t 10 pqnt P les, H lFnz bikum Az Tik Az piksalz on H skrIn. - sO H tekst kAn stil bI red pxfektli wen it iz rWli smYl:


14pt - Note that antialiasing occurs on the lines - the lines are multi-pixel, and so are thick enough for it to happen

10pt - Anti-aliasing has stopped... but notice here that the lines are now pixel-thick, not 'padded out' at all, so the fonts are still fairly good-looking and readable at sizes as small as this.

14 pqnt - H /SEvian font kOps nPmali wiH His sFz, Just lFk H /Arial tekst

10 pqnt - but nQ it hAz gon Yl mesi, JAgid n YlmOst unrIdabal... kampX His wiH H 10 pqnt /Arial tekst abuv. HX iz sumTiN in it HAt mEks it gUd-lUkiN n rIdabal Ivan At HIz sFziz.


F'm SUD His 'smYl-sFziz' kEpabiliti vizibal in H stAndDd fonts kUd bI inkPpDEtid intM a /SEvian font Az wel.

if sumwun kUd hAv a TiNk avQt His it wUd bI grEt - Hen /SEvian tekst kAn rWli lUk gUd on web pEJiz.

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p.s. sori t HOz v V hM kynt rId html-mEl - mF 'font demanstrESan' kFnda nIdid it t bI ifektiv :)
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it's kYld "hintiN" n, in trMtFp fonts, akcMalI kansists v lital prOgrAmz
embedid in H font. kampVtD progrAms kAn hint fonts, but H best hintiN iz dun
bF hAnd bF skild prafeSanalz. F TiNk it wUd tFk kwFt a bit v efDt t hint
/SEvWn fonts propDlI.

cCz,
filip

F'm SUD His 'smYl-sFziz' kEpabiliti vizibal in H stAndDd fonts kUd bI
inkPpDEtid intM a /SEvian font Az wel.



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Event: Lionel Ghoti -- transliteration
URL: http://www.egroups.com/cal?listname=shavian&md=d&day=10972
Date: Sun Jan 16, 2000
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Hi!
I write Kwikskript and there isn't that much difference in the two
alphabets. Learning speed would be faster in Kwikskript since the phonetic
spelling is easier to understand. I did not like the characters for "v" and
"b" so I use the Shavian ones. The "h" I use is also Shavian. Except for
two other vowel sounds that is about all the difference there is. The "f"
is a bit different but not radically. I can read both scripts without
confusing letters. It is just not that different.
Sid


On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 15:04:19 -0800, shavian@... wrote:

>
> Mr. Gabhart,
>
> Read seemed to have abandoned many of the analytical aspects of
> Shawscript when creating Quickscript.
>
> He says that he did this because some people had trouble forming some
> of the Ss characters.
>
> My guess is that the overlap is about 80% altho as you say it is a little

> confusing when some of the grapheme-phoneme correspondences are changed.
>
> Have you checked out the keyboard Shavian - This is what you have to type
> in order to access the special characters on the Shavian fonts?
>
> I am mostly concerned about ease of learning. Did you find Quickscript
> any easier to acquire than Shawscript?
>
> In what respects was it simplified for you.
>
> Steve Bett
>
> sbett@...
> http://204.196.54.50/Spanish/spanglish.htm
> This is one door to about 20 pages on orthography and notations
> --
>
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:18:53 Paige Gabhart wrote:
> >
> >I just discovered this group this evening. I was surprised to find
> >real people actually interested in Shawscript. My only regret is that
> >after corresponding with Kingsley Read some thirty years ago, he sent
> >me a Quikscript manual, and I stopped using Shawscript, which I had
> >initially learned and switched over to Quikscript. Now I find it
> >difficult to read the Shawscript, especially since some of its letters
> >represent different sounds in Quikscript. I made the switch to
> >Quikscript, after reading its manual, because I became convinced that
> >Mr. Read had made some significant improvements over Shawscript,
> >especially in regards to handwritten script and the simplification of
> >some of the Shawscript symbols. Now, it is a little dismaying to find
> >people interested in promoting the use of Shawscript, making fonts
> >available in it, etc. and ignoring what I have felt to be the improved,
> >second version of Shawscript, i.e. Quikscript.
> >
> >This is probably a futile question, but does anyone know of a
> >downloadable font for Quikscript? It would really be nice to be able
> >to type in Quikscript on my computer for office files, etc.
> >Previously, I sometimes use Quikscript in my business, but it has
> >always been for handwritten notes.
> >
> >All the best to everyone.
> >
> >
> >Paige Gabhart
> >
> >
>
>
> LYCOShop is now open. On your mark, get set, SHOP!!!
> http://shop.lycos.com/
>
> << File Attachment Removed: "text/html" >>


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At 04:14 PM 1/14/00 +0000, you wrote:


if F mE Just stRt on a difDant topik fP a mOmant...

[snip re font sizes]

If you use a program that supports smoothing fonts, they come out looking much better.


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Just got around this weekend to installing Ghoti Fingers...
love it!

Any Windoze user here who hasn't tried it, must.

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----- Original Message -----
From: Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
To: <shavian@eGroups.com>
Sent: 17 January 2000 7:38 pm
Subject: [shavian] Ghoti Fingers


> Just got around this weekend to installing Ghoti Fingers...
> love it!
>
> Any Windoze user here who hasn't tried it, must.
>
> Hal

Thank you muchly, Hal. How are your Shavian OCR and flashcard programs coming along? It would be nice to have an editable version of Androcles, but I don't have the strength to type it in.

Trying to think of other applications for such a program, once Androcles was done... Do you think, since Shavian is so clear and not very prone to differences in handwriting style, that it might be possible to do OCR on handwritten Shavian?


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> Thank you muchly, Hal. How are your Shavian OCR and flashcard
programs coming
> along? It would be nice to have an editable version of Androcles, but
I don't
> have the strength to type it in.

I have had some difficulties with the Java version of the flashcard
program. I
am thinking of redoing it in Delphi, though that would limit it to
Windows
machines.

The OCR... well, that is mostly a dream. I don't have the expertise to
write
such a program. I do believe it is "doable" though it might present
some
problems.

> Trying to think of other applications for such a program, once
Androcles was
> done... Do you think, since Shavian is so clear and not very prone to
> differences in handwriting style, that it might be possible to do OCR
on
> handwritten Shavian?
>
As for handwritten Shavian... my guess is that it would be no better
than
T.O., perhaps worse. I have seen "F" converted to "P" too many times,
and
the like... I can easily envision confusion between certain pairs of
Shavian
letters.

Maybe I will run this idea past someone here at work.

Hal




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